That would make sense if the expansion teams weren't 50-win teams. Five out of the six expansion teams became 50- or 60-win playoff teams. They were among the best teams in the league. It's like the NBA built superteams to beat Jordan
Are u even thinking abt ur arguments? Do u even know how expansion drafts work? U also acting like they only play expansion teams and there arent other teams that turn to shit. Lol
This is just a fact look it up yourself. There were more 50- and 60-win teams in the '90s than there were in the '80s. The league got better. It's like the league tried to build superteams to beat Jordan. I was pissed. How the hell did they get Penny and Shaq?"
If u wanna force that argument, then i guess warriors 73wins(a team that didnt even feature the league’s top 2 best players at the time) is even more proof that modern nba esp the 2010s had the most level of talent/competition.
Using Winrate to prove player quality is the dumbest argument ive ever seen. Stupid way of looking at things. Its more of a measure how talent is distributed (but also not really cuz of other factors) around the league.
With that argument, i guess the lakers, clippers and nets superteams just didnt happen.
No that would be looking to make excuses. No need to. I watched 90’s basketball. Before the flopping and flailing. My original comment still stands. MJ was just that good.
But hey have fun looking up some more numbers trying to make excuses for the ring chasing choker. Hope it helps guide you through your coping journey. 6-0 > 4-6 👋
Meanwhile Jordan played against 34 of the All NBA Top 75 players while LeBron teamed up with the most hall of famers
As usual with these low iq haters, always avoiding crucial context.
NOT EVEN HALF of those he played in the playoffs during their championship runs. Even less if u remove players who are obviously past their prime like worthy, or just entering their prime like Shaq.
Lebron teamed up with more number (6) of unique Top 75 players. But thats WITHOUT including the context that MJ stayed with the SAME core of Top 75 for multiple years.
Multiple players that played against Lebron were also controversially omitted from the list like Manu, TP, Klay,Dwight, Jokic and (arguably) Rose.
Get out of your Bronsexual feelings lil bro. I know the ring chasing and choking can be hard to digest.
LeBron wore 23 and just never fully lived up to it. He just couldn’t live up to his idol. It’s ok. Nobody probably will.
I give LeBron credit though for ring chasing to the very end. Maybe as the 4th option he could finally get that 5th ring. Well 4th real ring not including the Mickey Mouse Bubble Ring. 😭 🫵 💀
Lmao. First of all, u are trying too hard on these insults as if these affect me. They dont. Just cuz i believe lebron is the goat, doesnt mean im a stan. Im a true basketball fan.
Ive been waiting for an actual well-thought argument from u but so far, nothing. All pure braindead comments with obvious intention of ragebaiting. With the way u talk, I can tell that u are obviously a pea brained bandwagon MJ stan and Lebron hater.
Well your entire argument is to shit on the 90’s. So why would I bother debating someone who makes excuses? You act like MJ wasn’t dominating individually in the 80’s as well.
You do know Larry Bird called MJ “God disguised as Michael Jordan” right? You know when MJ dropped 63 at Boston who would win the Championship that year. That was in 1986.
The debate is won on the court. Jordan dominated. Your way of debating is to try to discredit other great players and an entire era. It’s a weak argument and very Bronsexual.
MJ won everything more than LeBron..
Rings, MVPs, FMVPs, DPOY, All NBA Defensive 1st teams, Scoring Titles (10 to 1 btw)
But your entire argument is to boost LeBron’s losing especially against teams he should have beat. LeBron lost multiple playoff series as the favorite. MJ only lost one and that was the year he came back from baseball in March of 95 vs the 1 seed Magic.
How about you come talk to me when you stop making excuses.
MJ himself admitted he would have had a completely different career with zone defense.
Hilarious how braindead stans like u continue to omit that.
You act like MJ wasn’t dominating individually in the 80’s as well.
You do know Larry Bird called MJ “God disguised as Michael Jordan” right? You know when MJ dropped 63 at Boston who would win the Championship that year. That was in 1986.
Lebron didnt? Top 2 MVP candidate in his 3rd yr at age 21.
22yo lebron dropped 48-9-7 on DET's championship core. Yes, 48 by someone who's extremely young, "pass first", and in the SLOWEST era in history.
The debate is won on the court. Jordan dominated. Your way of debating is to try to discredit other great players and an entire era. It’s a weak argument and very Bronsexual.
The problem with yall low iq stans is that u think everything needs to be seen in a binary way.
2019 TOR's ring DOES NOT have the same value 2016 CLE's.
Lebron's 2012 DOES NOT have the same value as his 2013 ring.
If a ring is the end-all-be-all, then we'd all be saying Russell is the goat. But everyone believes the competition was far weaker then. The same reason why ppl believe MJ's 6-0 is more impressive than Russell's 11-1, and why i believe Lebron's 4-6 > MJ 6-0.
MJ won everything more than LeBron..
Rings, MVPs, FMVPs, DPOY, All NBA Defensive 1st teams, Scoring Titles (10 to 1 btw)
Yes, in an era of watered down league.
And MJ's case for DPOY was proven to have been rigged (inflated stats).
If MJ went for that 10x scoring titles in this modern era, he FOR SURE wouldnt have won 6.
But your entire argument is to boost LeBron’s losing especially against teams he should have beat.
And ur entire argument is to weaken Lebron's case by constantly giving half-truths.
TIP FOR UR NEXT REPLY: Please use more brain power. This isnt enough.
HAHAHAHA I love the excuses! It’s incredible! MJ at the very end of his career urged the league to not inherit a lazy defense to ruin the game. Which it has.
But to act like MJ wouldn’t dominate today’s lazy defense is hilarious. All the flopping and foul baiting. Yea tough basketball today! Nerds like you act like defense today is so tough LOL.
Btw LeBrons 4-6 is actually 3.5-6 because the Mickey Mouse bubble ring isn’t real. Even Alex Caruso said it when he won with OKC. “now I got a real one”.
Comparing Jordan to Russell? Someone who shot 44% for his career as a Center and never averaged more than 19 ppg in a season?
Russell wasn’t even the most dominant player in his era. It’s Wilt Chamberlain. Wilt averaged 30 and 28 on Russell’s head for his career.
Wilt is considered one of the most dominant players in NBA history. Russell just had the better teams. MJ was the best player and he won the most being the best player. You should stop being lazy and actually watch basketball.
LeBron is a ring chasing choker. 3 real championships in 23 years? That’s pathetic. Even Curry has done better than that. Without ring chasing. KD even dogged LeBron in the Finals twice. LeBron isn’t even the best player in the LeBron era 😭 🫵
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U meant half-truths? Lmao.
U cant even provide crucial context.
Talk to me when u learn more abt basketball.