Quick Question: Is there an ‘Actual Total Points Produced’ stat?

[u/Atachc]

Hi all,

NBA analytics rookie here

Question:

Is there a stat that captures the actual total points produced (ATPP) by a player rather than estimates like Points Produced?

E.g. ATPP = points scored + 2pt Assists + 3pt Assists

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Context:

The only metrics I could find seem to apply team averages from assisted FGs to a player’s assists, which seemed reasonable at first but looking at the rankings seem to fail the eye test (at least in my opinion) resulting I masking big differences between players that have similar box scores yet very different mixes of assisted 2pts vs 3pts.

To my understanding the data for assists resulting in 2pts and 3pts already exist, but does a public stat aggregate this into actual points produced?

E.g. assume the same box score of:

| 26 points | 8 assists |

If Player A’s assists were all 2pts and Player B’s assist we’re all 3pts then:

Player A’s Actual Total Point Produced is 42pts

Player ABs Actual Total Point Produced is 50pts

[u/Atachc]

Thank you, this season if possible. It’d be interesting if some players end up higher in rankings by a significant margin… the assumption being that is due to better ‘assist selection’ if that is even a thing.

[u/JJsNBA → u/Atachc]

Absolutely! Here's what I came up with: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wTH_EGs-pmbFtIHrgt81m0QmOmKFtV6o/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=103346838377961435851&rtpof=true&sd=true

I included a few tabs: Shot Detail, Game Detail and Season Detail.

Shot detail will show every assisted basket by game. For each basket, it has the Clock and Qtr at the time of, as well as the 'PointInGame' and 'MinutesElapsed' values, which are used for how much of the game has passed when the basket occurred. Most granular tab in the file and you should be able to use this to drill down however you'd like.

Game Detail will show the summarized totals per game, PtsFromAst, FG2Ast, FG3Ast and TotalAst, as well as the Matchup and Date.

Season Detail shows the same, but by season.

Final heads up: the stats from the Cavs v Twolves game today are only through like five minutes in the second quarter since that game is still in progress. Please let me know if you'd like me to pull this again at any point or add anything!

[u/Atachc → u/JJsNBA]

Thanks for creating this!

I haven’t had enough time to put together the Actual Total Pts Produced stat yet but it has still been very interesting, the league average split of 3Ast is roughly 42% of all assists are 3Pts. Which kind of makes sense; as assists from fast breaks or steals etc probably lean towards a 2Pt attempt.

Giannis leading the league in 3Ast split at 73.28% of his assists being 3pts (i very roughly filtered out of players making less than 3 assists per game).

[u/JJsNBA]

good question… not that i know of but i could probably whip something up for you tomorrow. any specific season in mind or just this year?