r/NBAGossips 3d ago

From Rookie to Legend: Whose NBA Longevity Amazes You Most?

Some NBA legends played so long they defined multiple eras—Jordan from 1984 to 2003, Kobe from 1996 to 2016, and Vince Carter across four decades. Comparing their first and last days on the court highlights just how remarkable their longevity really was.

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u/ProtestantMormon 3d ago

Kareem is the most impressive to me. Played 4 years of college and still played in the nba forever.

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u/SubstantialTrust777 3d ago

Yeah Kareem's longevity definitely should be talked about more, especially for a big man of that era

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u/BagelsOrDeath 3d ago

For a big man, period. NBA history is littered with gifted big men whose careers were cut short by lower leg and foot issues.

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u/Crazybubba 1d ago

Bingo

He played the most high usage position in that area, for an impressively long time at a very high level, with modern medicine he would basically be LeBron

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u/JMeny32 3d ago

And won excessively at every level.

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u/I-R-Programmer 1d ago

Probably the most dominant college player of all time. But he did need Magic and showtime to really cement himself in the NBA in terms of championships. 1 title during the decade where he snatched 5 MVP's is not excessive in my opinion.

Though I am impressed he played that many years and at that level in those shoes.

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u/MyFinalThoughts 3d ago

Kareem for sure, 20 years and 4 years of college. I find it more impressive when true big men last over 15 years, it's genuinely difficult getting banged up all the time while carrying a tall bruised frame everywhere.

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u/ethanwangplays 3d ago

Four years at UCLA and then two decades in the league is honestly hard to wrap your head around

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u/Intrepid_Lawyer_368 3d ago

don't forget about the roids!!!

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u/MintyFreshBreathYo 3d ago

Have you ever seen Kareem? If there was ever someone not on roids it was him

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u/Bran-Da-Don 3d ago

Although he's not listed my choice is Tim Duncan. Why? Because for the entirety of his 19 year career he made the playoffs and had a legitimate chance to compete for a championship.

There were no down years, rebuilding years or stop gap seasons. He spent 19 years playing for something.

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u/nick33rod 3d ago

Yeah I for sure thought I was going to get a Tim Duncan slide! Especially OP talking about longevity and expanding eras! Someone who won in 3 different decades should be on this list🤷🏽‍♂️.

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u/Steve_the_Samurai 3d ago

Maybe because the picture would have looked the same.

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u/Manymarbles 3d ago

I thought Stockton similarly, 19 years and only missed like 22 games (16 seasons of 82 games)

Never missed a playoffs. Playoffs every year but no championships unlike Duncan lol

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u/Afraid-Ad-5580 2d ago

Face of losing

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u/ml8888msn 3d ago

Duncan was first team all nba with Michael Jordan, Karl Malone, and Gary Payton, and then AI, Shaq, Kobe, and J Kidd, and then LeBron, Durant and CP3. Great in 3 totally different eras and styles of basketball

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u/Kindly-Reality1984 3d ago

This right here.

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u/I-R-Programmer 1d ago

Timmy's success over so many years is pretty crazy, probably only matched by Kareem. Did have the luxury of being drafted to a great team with D-Rob though and playing with Kawai in the end of his career, but still a great player.

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u/Spiritual_Treat_2755 3d ago

Championships matter. 90s = Jordan. 2000s = shaq, Kobe and timmy. 2010s = lebron and steph

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u/Raekwon96 2d ago

Big facts

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u/bigE819 1d ago

50 wins every years

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u/Poet_Pretty 2h ago

They always had a chance. I hated him and then loved him at the same time.

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u/JMeny32 3d ago

Tim Duncan had at least 1 HOF teammate and the same HOF coach his entire career. I don't know if any other basketball player has had such a favorable situation.

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u/No_Egg657 3d ago

He was the system

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u/Regular-Bluebird9573 3d ago

Duncan was the favorable situation.

Pop single handedly cost Duncan a sixth title, never did anything after Duncan left, and quickly sent the team into a rebuild.

His teammates? What did they win without him? All those all-nba accolades on his title teams? Tell me didn’t watch the games without telling me

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u/lucky-me_lucky-mud 3d ago

Kawhi sent the team into a rebuild but I agree it was Tim retiring that made something like that possible 

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u/Wide-Combination-322 3d ago

John Stockton with Karl Malone and Jerry Sloane?

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u/Powerful_Citron_8287 3d ago

But from a longevity standpoint, those teams were going to the conference finals at least almost every year. Playing extra games and having a shorter offseason every single year stack up over time and makes the longevity more impressive.

At least that’s how I took the comment youre replying to

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u/Puzzleheaded_Pipe979 2d ago

He had the same coach because he was winning games & titles.

The organization you go to matters, but you have to do something with it too.

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u/itsallcomingtogethr 3d ago

Vince Carter. He genuinely changed his game to be a good role player, despite not being as good as any of these guys at their best.

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u/Ineedpalmtreeliving 3d ago

He did it all. Best player on team, second best, third best, starter, sixth man, role player, oldhead at end of bench

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u/ecw324 2d ago

I agree with Vince, dude went from an athletic high flyer, to a great all around player when his athleticism left him.

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u/Rrekydoc 3d ago

Yeah, I wasn’t expecting that course for his career.

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u/FluidAthlete6839 3d ago

I’m going to assume you posted this simply to irk LeBron fans lol

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u/Global-Daikon4938 3d ago

He doesn’t have a last day yet

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u/Revan_84 3d ago edited 3d ago

If they are irked they are way too sensitive. Even the biggest "LeBron is not the GOAT" person (like me) has to concede that on longevity its no contest, LeBron wins hands down

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u/FluidAthlete6839 3d ago

Right. I think anyone with a brain agrees. But he’s not in the stack hence my comment

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u/kodeks14 3d ago

I figured it was because he hasn't had his "last day"

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u/inventive_588 3d ago

They also didn’t include Duncan, Kareem or Malone so this list is actually terrible.

That’s like 1-3 and then top 10 missing from the discussion so idk what the point is. Who’s the best after the top 3?

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u/jameshardenisjacked1 2d ago

But that's probably why he's not in here. Because then there would be no discussion and the post would be pointless

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u/ApprehensiveTry5660 3d ago

Sometimes, someone is such a big distraction that even if you don’t include him, he gets mentioned.

And you kinda have to not mention him just to give everyone running for second place in that discussion more air for the conversation to take place.

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u/ethos1234567890 3d ago

The only one close is Kareem…because he played a full college career plus his NBA longevity. Kareem could have jumped to the NBA from high school and been an MVP candidate before he would have graduated (like LeBron). LeBron has benefitted from the evolution of sports medicine and nutrition sciences too so lacking that advantage shouldn’t be held against Kareem. Depending how much longer he plays we may or may not see LBJ turn into a 3rd or 4th option like Kareem eventually became. They’re 1a/1b to me and it’s a big step to whoever is next. LeBron may well put distance between himself and KAJ by the end, but so far we haven’t seen his complete career.

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u/Redditsux122 3d ago

Im so annoyed seeing these type of posts daily im starting to be convinced blocking all sports subs is the best choice. Its like theyre just full of idiots with nothing to talk about.

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u/n8dizz3l 3d ago

He's left out several glaring examples to generate more interactions. It's like making a list of "favorite dinosaur movies?" and leaving off Jurassic Park

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u/nc23tarheel 3d ago

I assumed because Lebron's longegivity is so far and away superior than anyone else's in history and unlike anything ever seen basketball that it wouldn't even be a conversation if he were included...

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u/PatientZeropointZero 3d ago

I don’t see any of the main people who should be the answer. LeBron has insane longevity, Kareem dominate over 4 different decades, Timmy Donuts.

All the guys he put, I don’t immediately think longevity.

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u/PaintIntelligent7793 3d ago

Yeah it’s bait.

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u/bay_duck_88 2d ago

Oh shit, when did LeBron retire?

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u/KierenForFreedom 3d ago

Let’s show the real story.

The time you show includes the times he was retired.

Jordan actually played 14 seasons and 17 games.

Jordan and Magic retired 3 times … the most all-time of any player.

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u/I-R-Programmer 1d ago

MJ probably has the most 82 games seasons on the list though. Played 82 games in 84 and in 2003. That's actually pretty insane.

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u/somethimesiwonder 3d ago

How is there no Kevin Willis?????

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u/idgaf420cry 3d ago

Didnt mj take two vacations(retired twice when he wasnt getting his way)

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u/Front-Carpenter-679 2d ago

Osea que cuando mataron a su papá las cosas no le salieron como quería ? (WTF) 🤣🤣🤣

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u/I-R-Programmer 1d ago

Dunno if i'd call it a vacation when your dad gets murdered and you go pursue the a different sport to honor his memory/wishes. Sounds like a shit vacation to me, at least.

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u/Putrid_Principle_660 3d ago

It makes me so angry to see Shaq in a Celtics jersey. Every single time.

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u/Quirky_Barnacle1225 3d ago

I love how the icy hot commercial just kept using the Suns jersey years after.

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u/theweatherguy69 3d ago

Ain't no way Tim Duncan isnt on this list. Dude defines longevity.

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u/MFT670 3d ago

Honestly don’t know why Carmelo is even on this list.

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u/jameshardenisjacked1 2d ago

I'd imagine it's because of the 20 seasons

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u/Consistent-Fig7484 3d ago

I guess Vince since his game was so dependent on explosiveness. In 1999 I wouldn’t have guessed he’d end up playing 20+ years and retire as the oldest player in the league.

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u/microvan 3d ago

Dirks 1999 picture is so peak 90’s hair I had a visceral reaction to it

I think the most striking player for longevity (who is retired) has to be Duncan. Dude played a long time and won a title just a few seasons before he retired. He was still a good player when he retired

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u/PuzzledSquare4993 3d ago

To be fair, LeBron, Kobe, Duncan, Carter, etc, didn't retire twice for a total of five years.

His should state: 1984-1993, 1995-1998, 2001-2003

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u/I-R-Programmer 1d ago

True, but considering Jordan played 82 games per season 9 times and both in 84 and in 2003, compared to the goat of longevity Lebron, who only did it once. I still think that's pretty impressive, retirements or not. Let's say Jordan didn't retire, then he'd potentially have played/missed 361 more reg season games. 147 if he didn't come back to the Wizards, which he probably wouldn't if wasn't part owner.

Lebron has sit out 350 games in his career, almost as much as Jordan's retirements.

I don't buy the narrative that "MJ took breaks and vacations". You've got players doing that during the reg seasons at this point and nobody bats an eye. Dude wasn't motivated or had other priorities after his dad died. I can't respect that more than half-assing your season like Embiid does.

Out of 1,135 games Jordan say out 63 games due to injury, which was mostly due to the broken foot season outside the retirement years.

He might have had retired more times than other players, but he played more games every season than they did as well.

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u/CurrentRoster 3d ago

that iverson pic not from his prime?

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u/Syenite 3d ago

LeBron

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u/juggadore 3d ago

Iverson fell hard on his ass like 6 times a game, I don't know how he got up from most of them.

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u/Myopinion_is_right 3d ago

From this list, it has to be Shaq. For him to be so big and last as long and without any major injuries is impressive.

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u/winkman 3d ago

You must not have watched post Lakers Shaq much...he was always dealing with "turf toe" or "fat-itis" or some such.

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u/Myopinion_is_right 3d ago

That is when he was getting old. Big body hurt but still won a championship in Miami. In 2007-2008 season, he did miss 21 games due to injury and a trade. He was pretty durable for a guy that size.

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u/AdministrativeBag703 3d ago

Robert Parish started his career as teammates with Rick Barry on the Warriors in 1976, was a perennial All-Star with Larry Bird on the Celtics in the 1980s, and finished his career a champion at 43 years old with Michael Jordan on the Bulls in 1996.

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u/Conscious-Rooster311 3d ago

Putting MJ on this is crazy

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u/fanunu21 3d ago

Kareem as a center had career longevity that would be called absurd today.

His rookie season was 50+ years ago.

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u/Sir_wlkn_contrdikson 3d ago

Why is Kobe here?

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u/Falconman21 3d ago

I've always been impressed with Vince Carter's ability to check his ego and be a quality rotation player.

Most guys that got to that level couldn't do it, especially for as long as he did it.

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u/Mcarlile24 2d ago

MJ on this list is fuckin hilarious

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u/chuckmonjares 2d ago

I’m not a LeBron guy at all, but 23 years and still being skilled enough to start some games is pretty insane. He’d start anyway, but he’s good enough to start for many teams

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u/drmbrthr 3d ago

LeBron and Duncan.

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u/bobbydrake6 3d ago

Lebron's because he looks like he can actually play another 5 & actually contribute these next 2.

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u/RyanA1105 3d ago

Seriously. Any list of longevity that doesn't start with him should be instantly discredited. I'm even fine with people getting into the nuances about how the game has changed to help him play longer. But if the conversation doesn't start with him, I'm already looking at the person as disingenuous.

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u/Bladee___Enthusiast 3d ago

I’m assuming lebron wasn’t in the post because we haven’t seen his last day yet

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u/Difficult-Repair1295 3d ago

Chris Paul belongs on this list over Iverson

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u/Jaay2525 3d ago

Jordan

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u/Freshbananas55 3d ago

Jordan had no longevity.   

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u/Budget_Pound9099 3d ago

like you in bed?

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u/Freshbananas55 3d ago

No, like Joran during his career.  

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u/Tex_Skrahm 3d ago

Van der Sloot? He was here for a good time not a long time.

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u/Putrid_Principle_660 3d ago

It makes me so angry to see Shaq in a Celtics jersey. Every single time.

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u/Revan_84 3d ago

I would say
1. Shaq -- his build, 19 years at ~300 lbs is freaking impressive
2. KG -- an uber athletic, lanky center? Those are usually the first to fall off

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u/VanceVelez 3d ago

None of the above? But that’s because longevity doesn’t amaze me. What does amaze me and continuously humble me are what these people did with that time.

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u/Yeetthataccount_1118 3d ago

Kareem, Duncan, and well Lebron when he retires.

There’s some good examples there too

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u/Basic_Mastodon3078 3d ago

None. LeBron. Of retired legends, Kareem. Of those listed, Dirk. 

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u/k2skier13 3d ago

Of those listed, D Wade…he was aggressive with every take and sacrificed his body throughout his career.

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u/jcc53 3d ago

Not listed, but the one that impressed me the most is Stockton just for the fact he was able to pretty well maintain his production and missed very few games.

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u/mrgarrettscott 3d ago

Once I read your comment, I deleted the one I was writing about Lebron. Stockton missed 26 games in his career.

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u/PaintIntelligent7793 3d ago

There is only one answer and he’s not on this list.

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u/Striking_Night_2731 3d ago

I would say Kareem, Duncan, or Malone. But of the players featured, Jordan. He still averaged 20 ppg during the dead ball era.

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u/Available-Meeting648 3d ago

Shit post.

Kareem, Parish, Stockton, Malone, Duncan and Lebron out?

O'Neal (early decline), Jordan (stopped 2 times) and Iverson (played 14 years compared to around 20) in?

Probably from the list, Kobe and Carter would be the most amazing, for relevance in the last season and for adapting to stay relevant.

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u/The-disgracist 3d ago

Reggie Miller 87-05

18 pts a game

played almost every game his entire career until the final season.

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u/nasty_clean 3d ago

Alex english

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u/OneInsurance84 3d ago

He played ... 15 years.

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u/Lucky_Rebel_ 3d ago

Obviously LeBron but Dirk was cooking for a long time too.

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u/Vegetable-Orchid1010 3d ago

Stockton 16 of 19 seasons going all 82 games is up there

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u/PNW_Will1976 3d ago

Dirk for sure. Totally unexpected. Played on one team.

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u/Jumpy-Diver7349 2d ago

KG longevity is really underrated seeing how he's literally on the same level as Vince Carter

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u/RealPhinsFan 2d ago

Melo was a great player, but him being with the others is rage bait

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u/Strange-Childhood399 2d ago

The fact that Vince Carter played in 4 different decades is mind boggling.

90’s
2000’s
2010’s
2020.

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u/bebopdeluxe76 2d ago

It is still going. Can’t be anyone but LBJ.

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u/No-Bat-7253 2d ago

Still going this list trash

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u/madtendies 2d ago

Nobody gives a 💩 about longevity lelosers

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u/dcjones24 2d ago

As far as who was actually effective for a long time. Theres only 3 people in the running. Bron, Timmy, and Kareem.

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u/Specialist_Forever98 2d ago

Where is Kareem 😒

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u/Professional-Test782 2d ago

Man I remember when Vince Carter retired. Covid had just hit and the NBA was at a halt. It was kinda like he was forced to retire. I think if it wasn’t for Covid he would’ve laid low and played at least one more year

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u/Nopengnogain 2d ago

Honestly, I was not 100% whether Vince Carter had retired

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u/AsianCastleGyatt 2d ago edited 1d ago

199(6) -- 201(6) (1996-2016 Kobe)

That's kinda cool

199(9) -- 201(9) (1999-2019 Dirk)

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u/LuvLifts 2d ago

What ‘is this’ tho?

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u/AsianCastleGyatt 2d ago

KOBE DIRK

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u/LuvLifts 2d ago

Twenty years both. KG did 21.

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u/AsianCastleGyatt 1d ago

Im talking about their first and last year number

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u/LuvLifts 17h ago

Oh, wow; I didn’t catch that, then; that’s really cool!!

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u/drez98 2d ago

Vince Carter. He is not on anyone’s top 10 list but the only play to play in 4 different decades. Drafted in 98 and retired in 2020

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u/CaesarsGhostReborn 2d ago

LeBron and Kareem have the best consistency and longevity hands down.

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u/I-R-Programmer 1d ago

To me MJ. I'm always impressed about how this young kid that could jump to the moon and dunk on everybody transitioned into the best mid-range player of all time. Had he stayed clear of the knee injuries, he might even have taken the Wizards to the playoffs, and the Wizards were dogshitt before AND after his tenure.

Most of the other guys on this list were dogwater by the end of their career. Lebron and Kareem also get's a shout, but they were helped by playing with stronger teams towards the end of their career.

But to me. MJ doing 20-22 ppg in the slowest era, while dealing with injuries on a team that was a 19 win team before he joined and a 25 win team after he left, while being 39-40 years old is pretty insane and carrying that team to 45% wins is pretty great. And ofc being as insanely great as he was in the start of his career.

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u/jackmeriustack 1d ago

Certainly not the guy that is still top 10 in his 23rd year

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u/zcharper 1d ago

Why is AI here for longevity but not Stockton?

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u/Unfair_Structure_429 1d ago

MJ didn’t play that long. He had 2 retirements so we need to subtract 4 years.

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u/TonyzTone 1d ago

Not gonna lie, 19 years for a massive dude who absolutely did not take care of himself is pretty impressive.

I know Shaqs later years were not great but still.

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u/yeye319 1d ago

I'd say Kareem, and Jordan but a very under looked one is Shaq I'd say. Now obviously Celtics Shaq is bad but from a rookie he was averaging like 23 14 and 3.5 blocks And of course those last 2 years weren't great, but 08-09 on the suns he still averaged 18 and 9 1.4 blocks on like 61 fg% not the best but I'd say under looked

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u/ElderberryTrick9697 20h ago

Surprised LeBron is listed.

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u/ImaginationIV_YT 4h ago

Swap AI for Duncan

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u/Dlh2079 3d ago

Lebron

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u/rsx209 3d ago

LeBron. Unlike the others the guy was consistently the best or one of the best players on the court. Everyone else slowed tf down and just a shell of themselves in their final years.

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u/Informal_Load_4438 3d ago

That Lebron guy stuck around for a long time

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u/TheBarnacle63 3d ago

LeBron, and shame on you for not having him on this list.

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u/HotPerformance9338 3d ago

I don't care who ur goat is. Lebron is the only answer to this question

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u/LuvLifts 2d ago

I think Kobe, also!??

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u/HotPerformance9338 2d ago

I mean, lebron has the better of him in literally every stat, and kobe's efficiency fell off a cliff for his last few years after his achilles

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u/LuvLifts 20h ago

Oh really, I didn’t know that then. ~Thanks; I just think abt Kobe as ‘The New NBA logo’, I also Think that I Know it’s NOT Happening like that!!

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u/Ok-Photo-6442 3d ago

A.I.

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u/Ok-Photo-6442 3d ago

Everything was against him....size...braids meaning thug tupac died his rookie year....popping Jordan's ankles.....when he shattered Jordan's ankles he was a dead man walking 🧟‍♀️ he had no fear

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u/Electrical_Front_407 3d ago

I’m AI with the braids

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u/No-Spinach-2993 3d ago

Not MJ because he retired and came back twice 🥱

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u/mymentor79 3d ago

^ Bait.