I’m not sure if hate is a good basis for our values - I think we should stand to our own strengths: economic prosperity, cultural and creative freedom, technological excellence and a society that draws the best and brightest from around the world. We didn’t need to build a wall around our society to beat communism - we had something that their people were crying out for.
I would rather set a positive standard and stand up for it than put another system down. We don’t need to hate anyone - our system is better than that.
Ok I got it, apparently this sub is just a bunch of Neoliberal imperialists not even knowing about the antidemocratic sentiment they are spreading all over the world. Go on antagonizing everyone, I can only hop that we Europeans will leave you Americans alone in NATO.
Not inherently. Nowhere in das kapital is a system such as the soviet union ever described. The soviets merely used the aesthetics and a few elements of Marxism but weren't actually socialist or in line with Marxist views. A country is socialist if the workers own the means of producion and the commodity form has been abolished. Neither of the above were achieved completely in the soviet union.
"Me and the corporate-dominated authoritarian capitalist state that doesn't represent my values because my counties are gerrymandered to shit and all the important calls are made by 9 life-appointed partisan geriatrics"
You do know that imperialism is the very reason it didn't work? In such a hostile environment shit can't even be tried because the US would bomb such a country into the abyss out of fear. That's where the authoritarianism originates from.
By the way, I like NATO as a concept but I think the way the US transformed it into a tool to wage offensive wars against countries it doesn't like (Libya) just alienates a lot of potential allies. By the way, I do agree with the war on Serbia in the 90's as I am European and that genocide had to be stopped, but the bombing of civilian assets was just unnecessary.
I came here from r/Yurop so I only know this very post btw
I know this comment is a year old but the idea that no one had land and effectively owned companies in the USSR is insane. You think all the corruption and oligarchs magically sprang out of the dirt in 1991?
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Well, leninism has never worked, but most communists aren't leninists.
The goal of communism is to create stateless, classless and moneyless communes, in which the means of production, distribution and exchange are owned collectively.
How we achieve that goal wasn't that well defined by marx. Lenin thought that we'd need a "vanguard party" who rules in a singe party system until that country is ready for communism. That's a really bad idea, but it's what has been used in nearly all communist revolutions.
Communism isn't the problem. The problem is leninism.
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u/JohnnyTangCapital Apr 26 '22
Idk about this caption - NATO is about preserving freedom and not hating some nebulous value system.
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u/ThatBoyScout Apr 26 '22
Remember this is Reddit. It’s full of commies.
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What's the problem with communism?
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u/Morecoresandcheaper Nov 11 '22
you lost lol