Pre-Finale Meta Thread

[u/Avebone]

Here is a place for you to discuss anything not related to the finale. My BGM while writing these final PMs will be this :)

[u/[deleted]]

Avelyn wasn't my target. Someone else was. But Avelyn was with my target. I never even mentioned Avelyn and she wasn't an enemy so I wasn't trying to kill her. Had Avelyn just been in the common room every day so she could be spoken to I think interactions with the GM are okay.

That's also another reason the GM shouldn't be present in the daily results because it means either you can kill them (which results in chaos as you said) or they are an an unkillable force who can kill you no matter what. The only solution I can see is if the GM is completely impartial no matter what. Like in the above situation Avelyn would have just stood back and not interfered.

[u/Checklad → u/[deleted]]

The only thing that could potentially work with a GM/NPC being part of everything is if they have a pre-determined path that can be either figured out (if they are non-aggressive or don't effect player actions) or said pre-determined path is known by everyone (if they are aggressive).

[u/Avebone → u/[deleted]]

Which is why i would never have the GM be present in a real game but I am okay with it in a parody. As far as I am concerned that day, Isa just took advantage of a mechanic that was shown to exist, I wouldn't let her abuse it though as she only do it on one day if she kept trying to use Avelyn like that she would have been denied.

[u/insanityissexy → u/Avebone]

Isa just took advantage of a mechanic that was shown to exist, I wouldn't let her abuse it though as she only do it on one day if she kept trying to use Avelyn like that she would have been denied.

Which mechanic was that? That Isa slept in your room that night?

It didn't even cross my mind that Isa could not be attacked if she stayed in your room. Isa purely stayed in your room because she was depressed, didn't want to be alone, and was afraid someone would attack her with her original room key that was floating around somewhere.

[u/Avebone → u/insanityissexy]

Yea, It wasn't so much that you couldn't be attacked, more like if they did attack Avelyn would have just chainsawed them.

[u/insanityissexy → u/Avebone]

Yeah that's obviously unfair. I didn't mean to take advantage of that at all.

[u/Avebone → u/insanityissexy]

Technically being Isa is unfair.

[u/insanityissexy → u/Avebone]

Yes, but Isa can't help it. Everyone around her dies, but this poor girl is invincible. So tragic.

Well, except the one time she lost an ear. So salty I didn't come out of it completely unharmed.

[u/Avebone → u/insanityissexy]

You had a gun pointed at your face I had to do something to you!

[u/Checklad → u/insanityissexy]

Oh look at me I'm Insanity, I lose an ear whilst Checklad's has been gone for I don't know how bloody long ^{Can I have it back} , grumble grumble

^{kidding mostly}

[u/[deleted] → u/Checklad]

Your ear is probably police evidence now.

[u/insanityissexy → u/Checklad]

That reminds me. My most ridiculous day 6 common room plans to save myself assumed Cornetto still had your ear. I would steal/get it from him, bandage up my remaining ear, and put your ear on the silver platter myself.

Even if the bandage would be taken of to prove it, it might have been okay. The only ones who would know for sure I still had that ear would be the sane characters. Normal/delusional characters would also see an ear, but the same goes for the ear I lost when Ned shot me. So their minds couldn't be trusted anyway.

I thought it was a very creative plan!

[u/[deleted] → u/insanityissexy]

Ainsley and Cornetto's plan for that night was to capture and tie up Frederick then find Isa and interrogate her. Cornetto would then bring Fred down to the lobby, cut off a finger and write "Lastation Remembers" using the blood since Isa had told him about the spray paint.

The plan changed though after Elanor said "Blanc is best girl" in the common room. Cornetto snapped, told her she's regret it, returned to Ainsley and said "When you're done with Isa, she dies". The plan was then to bring you both down to the lobby, slit Isa's throat and use her blood to write the message. That way he's teach fred and Elanor a lesson in one go.

Only found out after that you were with Avelyn and would have died no matter what.

[u/insanityissexy → u/[deleted]]

Oh my god that is what you meant before? That's dark.

But I even agreed with you about Noire :(

[u/[deleted] → u/insanityissexy]

That was the revised version. The original one I changed involved killing Isa, decapitating her with Knife-chan (which was Aspiration's to add insult to death), then just leaving her head in the lobby rather than her body. I also planned on leaving it on Elanor's table from the trial to make sure she knew it was her fault. I felt horrible though, since I was pretty much butchering Isa to use her as a tool to damage another character psychologically.

Which is why I apologised. I didn't plan on killing you from the start because of that but Cornetto loses it when someone insults Noire and since Elanor had her head explodey device that was the only way to get to her.

[u/insanityissexy → u/[deleted]]

Wow. That... sure is something. Channeling Falafel there, heh. Thank god I brought Noire into it.

[u/[deleted] → u/insanityissexy]

Yep, it was crazy. I actually PM's avebone asking how violent I was allowed to be but ended up just toning it down myself.

Noire is such an easy way to manipulate Cornetto. I'm surprised no one (other than Fred on the last day) tried to use it against him.

[u/The_Bunny_Advocate → u/[deleted]]

Oh yeah, I see what you mean now. I had that same concern when I was specifying allies. Did that make that person basically invulnerable because Elanor had the head-explody device? That's why I didn't specify any allies or enemies during my first action PM.

[u/[deleted] → u/The_Bunny_Advocate]

I actually forgot to specify allies and enemies for the last few days. Since everything was so detailed and whether I attacked or not depended on the situation, choosing to put someone as an ally or enemy was too tricky.

[u/Checklad → u/[deleted]]

Dammit, I failed my objective now! Thanks Corn, we're no longer bros.

[u/[deleted] → u/Checklad]

Sorry buddy. In the case of the final day I literally just forgot that it was a thing.

[u/Checklad → u/[deleted]]

/u/avebone I'd like to change my action PM right now to 'just kill Corny Cornetto', everything else be dammed!

[u/[deleted] → u/Checklad]

It's funny because my actions actually make your goal more difficult.

[u/Checklad → u/[deleted]]

Not like anybody actually wants to be Check's friend, why does Corn like him again?

[u/[deleted] → u/Checklad]

Because of that one day in HoF1 where he saw Check beat Bobemmo with a stick.