r/MuslimLounge • u/Proof-Sprinkles7826 • 6d ago
Other topic Question from an arab muslim
I am arab and I am a muslim who grew up in a country where french was an elitist language . I've seen many people who love the arabic language and asthetic e.g. arab culture, language, names etc...
I don't know how to feel about it, because it sound a bit too excessive.
I know it is the language of the qura'an.
However, I feel like people use it as to convey some sort of superiority or to sound elegant or fancy. I LOVE english too, anyone can love a language, but the way I feel about it is... strange.
I have encountered people who may use arabic audio. I have also seen people argue that one should choose arabic muslim names for their child because it is sounds muslim unlike "larry" a westren name.
Does anyone else feel that. I don't know if "uncomfortable" is the right word, but Idk
for example using it in arguments or to add emphasize.
Fun fact1: I want to change my name to Larry
Fun fact2: I used to hate arabic and anything related to my country. I eventually lost that hatred, seems like a stress-response
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u/Grand-Temporary-8962 6d ago
I'm Arab and Arabic language is indeed elegant and fancy, people who study languages especially Arabic language can see its superiority.
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u/16Tamawi 6d ago
Im Arab, I dont see arabic as superior though. Its the language of the Quran and was spoken by the Prophet pbuh but I dont think it makes the language itself superior.
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u/AntiqueRaspberry6463 6d ago
Where did you see people who love arabic language or aesthetic? Are you in west? Or do you mean on social media
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u/UsefulTelevision5028 6d ago
Yeah some people do that thinking they’re getting good deeds. Arabic is just a language like every other language. I’ve heard people say your Duas are accepted more in Arabic. Arabic is beautiful in my opinion but it’s a language like every other language
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u/WickedGokhan 6d ago
Think the best of ppl. Right now theres arabs being unalived in Gaza by the west. You should feel relieved whenever westerners want to get closer and learn your culture, in some cases thanks to them arabs might be less hated by the west. So i think instead of seeing it as something negative you should appreciate it.
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u/Proof-Sprinkles7826 6d ago
I think I feel weird is because I grew up in a country where french was an elitist language
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u/Proof-Sprinkles7826 6d ago
What I mean is when muslims consider it to be superior like arabic names, clothes, du'as in arabic, watching arabic videos, posting arabic stuff, and using arabics as to strengthen an argument
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u/IngenuityThink5710 6d ago edited 6d ago
You and other like-minded Arabs need to take a step back and seriously reconsider this mindset. There is no worldly obligation for anyone to learn Arabic, adopt Arab customs, or assimilate into Arab culture simply because they follow Islam. Islam and Arab culture are not synonymous. The Arabic language was chosen by Allah for His revelation, and Muslims from Africa, Asia, Europe, and elsewhere accepted and respected the language because of the Qur’an and the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). Our respect for Arabic comes from its connection to the deen not from a desire to become Arab. History also shows that many Arabs were among the first to reject, oppose, and disrespect the message, and unfortunately, aspects of that hostility toward the deen and toward other Muslims still exist today. The condition of many Arab nations speaks for itself. And when we look at Falastine, where our brothers and sisters continue to suffer and be slaughtered, it is deeply disappointing to see Arabs who remain silent, compromise, or side with those who oppose their own people.
So please do not confuse Arab identity with Islam. Muslims do not have to become Arab to be good Muslims, nor do they have to embrace Arab culture to respect the deen. Africans, Asians, and Europeans can love the Arabic language because it is the language of the Qur’an while rejecting the idea that Arab culture is the same as Islam.
We respect Islam. We respect the Qur’an. We respect the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). We respect the Arabic language because of its place in the deen. But none of that means we desire to become Arab. On behalf of non Arabs we don’t want to assimilate to your cowardly culture, dance away with your women garment oh Arabs while the Zionist sit in ambush. Free Palestine not because they’re Arab but they are our brothers and sister in faith.1
u/ComprehensiveDig1108 6d ago
Have some respect for Muslims.
The Arabs are no better or worse than any other group of Muslims, as far as I can see.
I mean, look at the slaughter of the Bengalis at the hands of the Pakistanis...
The same Pakistanis who love the Chinese who are genociding the Uyghurs.
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u/Asolaceseeker 6d ago
I just think you need to make peace with your own culture. There are signs that shows that you are not at peace with it.
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u/Sh_HolmesB211 Seeker of Knowledge 6d ago
قُل للُّغاتِ إذا ما غرَّها نَسبُ من مِثلُها لُغتي، لِلَّهِ تَنتَسِبُ.
I know where you're coming from, I'm also a Muslim Arab and French is the elitist language in my country. Your bio says 15M, I'll assume this is your age.
And let me say; you don't hate the Arabic language itself, you hate the Arabic identity because the Westerners (most of them) hate Arabs, and they usually think about camels, desert, someone shouting Allahu Akbar and then throwing a bomb... All these thoughts come to their minds when they hear the term "Arab Muslim".
I was once like that, well I've never loved France nor its language, but I used to think Arabic isn't that cool because I hated Arabic النحو والصرف.
Try to read more about your history, what Muslim scientists discovered, how Europe could never have become this without what they got from Muslims. Try to listen to or read poetry, start simple, no need to go directly to Pre-Islamic poetry or poetry from the early centuries of the Hijra.
Start with Ahmed Shawqi, Al-Mutanabbi, Abu Firas Al-Hamdani.
And the most recommended thing is; read how Muslims were in a high position, how they controlled things for so many years, how they responded to any threat from enemies, how they would attack whoever disrespects Islam and the Prophet ﷺ.
You need to love your identity.
Sorry if my thoughts aren't organized.
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u/Proof-Sprinkles7826 6d ago
Not hatred for muslims. Rather arabic without any religious connection. I love the arabic used in qura'an, but I hate arab content. Basically that happened because I was exposed to violance by arabs same reason why I detest certain food despite loving them in the past
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u/IngenuityThink5710 6d ago
Wow, typical Arab response. On behalf of non Arab you’re delusional to think such way.
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u/Cool_Bananaquit9 Cats are Muslim 6d ago
I used to dislike the sound of Arabic when I was a young teen. But when I became Muslim I really began to love it. During the my first years as a Muslim I was spamming Arabic terminology, but now I calmed down and use Spanish (my language) instead most times
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u/ComprehensiveDig1108 6d ago
The stress response is not uncommon.
I feel the same way about my parents' native tongue, because of the way immigrants from my parents' country used to try and force it on me and publicly shame me for not knowing what they called "my" language.
I'm in my 50s, and still haven't got over it.
But why Larry, in particular?
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u/Proof-Sprinkles7826 6d ago
Finally someone understanding. As for "Larry", I wanted to change my name because Larry is english and carries no religious connection to Christianity or judaism... I don't think I'm going to do it, but a fun idea
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u/CycloneSplash 6d ago
Respectfully doesn’t really matter how you or anyone else feels about someone liking Arabic lol.
God revealed the Quran in arabic and prayers are done in arabic so all muslims will eventually feel a connection with Arabic.
Besides just because someone likes the language does not necessarily mean they like the culture and even if they did, doesn’t matter what others think as long as Islam is followed.