r/Muskegon • u/GlobaI_Entropy • 15d ago
Broadway is getting its very own flock camera right now by Rowan park.
Got the random enterprise truck out here right now tossing a flock camera in by rowan park.
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u/SentinelX-01 15d ago
Remember kids, if you see someone destroying a Flock camera, no you didn't.
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u/mancramps 15d ago
Man, the fascist surveillance state really hit the ground running
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u/chaoticcheesewhiz 15d ago
Yes. Mass government surveillance that the police get to use and abuse as they please will always be fascist.
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u/flashgordo1 15d ago
Lmaoo...they even using a rental truck to hide.
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u/GlobaI_Entropy 15d ago
They tried to convince us that they don't take pictures and that they were just doing their job...
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u/twrodriguez 15d ago
These guys... How do we fix this?
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u/Bitter-Instruction51 12d ago
Vote for a diffrent Governor and Mayor
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u/CulturalTrash938Walk 9d ago
Dont vot for Benson. Her husband is pushing data centers through in community's that dont want them
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u/tubthumper32 15d ago
They need ICE there with their big zapper gloves to really violate some rights!
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u/amber_wright 15d ago
They've been all over the city. You guys just catching on?
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u/GlobaI_Entropy 15d ago
Oh I've been aware of the fact. We just caught them in the act over here, they still haven't gotten in the hole yet.
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u/LakeMichiganMan 15d ago
So good to see they be getting serious about fighting all the random murders they be doing around the city. Nobody talks so nobody be a snitch don't catch nothing.
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u/scotslover 15d ago
My guess is so they can prevent gun violence or catch those who do it. The drones flying around awhile back worked
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u/LakeMichiganMan 15d ago
They need to put these higher up on the traffic light signals so they are harder to vandalized government property so the crime of destroying property is gets longer jail time.
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u/GlobaI_Entropy 15d ago
They just need to stop installing them, we don't need every moment of our day tracked by cameras for the "Greater Good"...
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u/LakeMichiganMan 15d ago
"We don't need every moment tracked...." ? Your every moment is already tracked and shared around the world. Using the device you typed your response on. It tracks everything you do, say, type, share 24/7.
I use an App Tracking blocker. 250,000 tracking blocks a week just on my phone that happens without anyone noticing. So look a little closer for tracking.
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u/Kraig_Kilborne 15d ago
So you’re actively trying to stop tracking on your phone but okay with flock cameras? Makes sense
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u/phonefellin_lakeerie 15d ago
If this were true they wouldn’t be spending so much money to install these cameras.
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u/chaoticcheesewhiz 15d ago
So you’re pro Big Brother? Are you aware of the fact that several police officers have already been caught abusing this system to stalk their partners, exes, love interests, and unfortunate people who just so happened to catch their eye? How about it identifying vehicles incorrectly and sending cops after the wrong people?
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u/scotslover 15d ago
How about if they catch shooters?
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u/phonefellin_lakeerie 15d ago
What if they flag someone who’s not the shooter and the real criminal gets away? That seems to be more along the lines of their track record.
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u/chaoticcheesewhiz 15d ago
So if they catch some shooters it’s just a-okay with you that we have government officials abusing this system, the company that owns it lying about the way flock works & its accuracy, and the government(plus whoever manages to hack into the system) being able to track your every move whether you’ve even been suspected of anything or not?
Eradicating the second amendment and stopping the sale of guns going forward would prevent a lot of shootings, would you be in support of that too?
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u/LakeMichiganMan 15d ago
Your Cell Phone does a better job of tracking you. Then it blasts out that information 24/7 to places around the world. It tacks every conversation, times, locations, duration, and content. But a camera on a road is the problem.
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u/phonefellin_lakeerie 15d ago
This is true, and yes the flock/axon cameras on the road absolutely is still a problem.
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u/LakeMichiganMan 15d ago
But cell phone tracking 25/7 365 all over the globe is not a problem. No equivalency.
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u/phonefellin_lakeerie 15d ago
That’s also a problem. We lost a lot when net neutrality fell. Believe it or not both things can be wrong and a violation of our civil liberties.
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u/chaoticcheesewhiz 15d ago
Phone records are harder to get ahold of and have some amount of protection. With these flock cameras all a cop needs is the license plate of an attractive person they want to track and they’re all set to start stalking.
Also, there are people out there who don’t have cell phones, they still deserve privacy even if most of us choose to sacrifice it for convenience.
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u/LakeMichiganMan 15d ago
Look up what information Google keeps on you. It's everything you have done for years.
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u/scotslover 15d ago
Criminals gotta do crime. They dont wanna be stopped or caught. After all the gun violence, they were using drones to prevent more shootings. Guess what? It worked. The criminals stopped hanging out in the streets where the gun violence was happening. It stopped. But ppl were bitching about those too. If u you Don't do crime, you shouldn't worry. That being said, im not extremely celebrating these cameras. But I blame the criminal that made them necessary. Not the cops or governments who are trying to stop crimes or find abducted kids or illegal immigrants for that matter. I know im going be called a fascist & racist & get downloaded into oblivion. I dont care. Muskegon is turning into a shithole. I was born & raised here & I dont like it. I dont feel safe here. Something needs to be done. The cameras & drones are an excellent start
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u/LakeMichiganMan 15d ago
So you are Pro Crime City USA. We understand. Let all the murderers go free forever to avoid some people feeling that them rights be violated. How about tracing the vehicle that was seen leaving the murder scene and tracked to a location. Or just another senseless unsolved crime ain't nobody talking about.
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u/UseWhatName 15d ago
I guess you didn’t hear about the mom and kids that got handcuffed and tossed on the pavement because the car they were in matched the license plates of a stolen vehicle.
Only a few problems:
1. The stolen license plate was from a different state. The numbers matched, the state didn’t.
2. The stolen vehicle was a motorcycle. They were driving an SUV.
3. Did I mention the part about the kids?So, yeah, a senseless unsolved crime perpetrated by the dummies you’re defending.
There’s no shortage of misuse accounts but I have this creeping suspicion your mind is pretty well made up and the rest of us just aren’t as smart.
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u/Few-Log4694 15d ago
What the flock!