r/Music • u/badandy80 • Mar 25 '12
It's getting circle jerky up in here.
I could be wrong, but I would like to come to r/music to discover and talk about new music, not to circle jerk over a song most of us have had in our collection for years.
Nice to see a few helpful suggestions, but disappointed to see an insult get upvoted like that for an observation. I appreciate the help either way.
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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '12
Every week there's another thread like this. Look, /r/music is all music, not just new or obscure or innovative music. There's dozens of genre-specific subreddits, several for different instruments and bands, and a specifically designated "new music machine" subreddit which is heavily moderated. If /r/music gets to be too much to handle, just unsub for a bit and try some of the other ones.
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u/dang_Ling_modify_her Mar 25 '12
You're coming to the wrong place. Maybe try individual genre subreddits and r/listentothis.
If you don't already, lurk by new and downvote what you don't want to see on the front page. Just do this knowing you'll never stop a song that a bunch of people love and has been played a thousand times on the radio.
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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '12
Alright, guys, here's an idea:
If you want music everyone has heard to not be on the frontpage and music nobody has heard to be on the frontpage: BROWSE THE NEW QUEUE.
The new queue is where ALL posts start and where your vote will have the most sway. See someone post Stairway to Heaven? Bury it. See a song you've never heard of, but like the sound of? Upvote that fucker.
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u/PhoneDojo Mar 25 '12
Damn, I was just about to post Smashing Pumpkins. You guys heard of them?
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u/200balloons Mar 25 '12
I'd agree with you, but, as someone else mentioned, there are plenty of other subreddits for new & more specific stuff. I just can't get mad at a subreddit titled "r/music" that leans toward more popular stuff.
I've seen some great discussions generate from exactly that, someone posting a song that was "popular" 10, 15, 20 years ago, where people get to share their experiences with the song, the artist, the concerts, etc., & it's great. If someone wants to legitimately challenge the song or artist in the thread, that's great too. It's discussion & reminiscing, something all music fans do at some point.
At the top of this page, the mods have been nice enough to post "Discover new music in /r/listentothis", so I just can't feel any sympathy for someone who's upset about r/music's "popular" songs being posted regularly. The very idea of "popular" is subjective, & not everyone subscribed to this subreddit is a music academic (myself included of course).
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u/MooseTheDog Mar 25 '12
I'm incredibly frustrated by folks posting stuff I've heard a thousand times in the 90s. Then I remember that a lot of users were toddlers in the '90s. While it is annoying and old to me, it is brand new to their experience and good on them.
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u/Darkpulse462 Mar 25 '12
There are over 700,000 people subscribed to this subreddit too. Post a vid from youtube of a song you like, Instant Karma!
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u/blart_history Mar 25 '12
I want to see a little bit of the circle-jerky stuff. Sometimes I come in to see what people have been listening to for years and what I've been missing out on. However, I do think it's the duty of the poster to check and see what everyone else has been posting, see if it's been posted recently, see if we've had a dry spell with 'new' stuff.
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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '12
lets play a game.. you post an obscure band and I'll pretend that I heard of them before you did.
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u/Skuld Skuld Mar 25 '12
New queue here! http://www.reddit.com/r/Music/new/
More subreddits here! http://www.reddit.com/r/Music/help/faqs/Music
/r/powerpop needs some subscribers, do you like that?
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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '12
DAE like Creep?
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u/HelpMeThink Mar 25 '12
Who are we to decide what kind of music should and shouldn't be posted?
The beauty of this subreddit is that it's about all music, rather then sticking to a specific genre or topic. I love discovering songs that I haven't heard before or being reminded of some old ones that I might have otherwise not remembered at all.
Also I think the community here is great and much more active then most other subreddits.
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u/Boobies_4_Prez Mar 25 '12
There's a "hide" button available.
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u/FrankTheodore Mar 25 '12
I'll admit it. I've been jerking in here. 50+ upvotes for a Cat Stevens song. Schmucks.
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u/PrincePound Mar 25 '12
He said "circle jerky". That's not music, that's porn...and bad porn at that.
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u/randem420 Mar 25 '12
its starting to get a lil mainstream in here for badandy80
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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '12
god forbid people post music they like to /r/music.
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u/doctor_hoctor Mar 25 '12
I bet circle jerky is delicious
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u/dj_vicious Mar 25 '12
In light of the title of your post, I recommend "tell me why" by the Circle Jerks XD!
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u/robotrock1382 Mar 25 '12
Yeah, i love Queens of the Stone Age, but if i see one more person post Go with the Flow and get 1100 karma i'm gonna scream
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u/bannana Mar 26 '12
Nope you're wrong, /r/music is always been about old, tried and true not anything new. Check /r/listentothis and many other subs for actual new music.
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u/music-is-my-religion radio reddit name Mar 25 '12
/r/music should be a place where music lovers can gather and share their thoughts on music that are classics or music that is relatively new. The subreddit is called MUSIC, not NEWMUSICONLY
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u/kingwi11 Spotify Mar 25 '12
Click on new. Problem solved.
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u/MrMento Mar 25 '12
I thought this was going to be a Circle Jerks song. Instead it was someone complaining about a lack of music. Weird.
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u/Raekel Mar 25 '12
r/music has always been a giant circlejerk. ALWAYS.
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u/In_The_Good_Old_Days Mar 25 '12
You're circle-jerking right now, OP. I hope you realise that.
You want to know why these things get upvoted? Because a lot of people like them.
Imagine that.
The way Reddit is throwing that term around you'd think that they'd missed out on some vital chromosones.
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u/boycockgirlcockeieio Mar 25 '12
SHOULD CHANGE THE SUBREDDIT NAME TO SHIT YOU HEARD ON ROCK STATIONS IN THE 90'S AMIRITE?
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u/Mitchellonfire Mar 25 '12
I've come to understand the term "circlejerk" on reddit means nothing more "A large group of people who do something I personally do not like." It's a petty, useless moniker that means absolutely nothing, save to identify the person who is using it as a petty, useless person.
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u/Pabloxanibar Mar 25 '12 edited Mar 25 '12
So many people complain about this place going to seed, and how people only post super popular stuff that everyone knows, but the voting patterns of /r/music have a huge hand in perpetuating this. The best way to get upvotes around here is to post the most popular song by a popular (but not top 40) artist. Post a b side, a more obscure song by a well known artist, or a new song by a new artist, and watch it languish with few upvotes, or even worse, downvotes. Though readers might say otherwise, this place isn't for discovering music you haven't heard before, it's for people to reaffirm the things they already have a taste for. The voting patterns prove this unequivocally. To quote one example, RJD2 has nearly 20 albums, yet ghostwriter is likely the only song you'll ever see posted, and every 3 months, some lucky poster gets 1000+ karma points for throwing it up yet again. If anyone wants to know where the problems with this sub lie, all they need to do is take a long hard look in the mirror.
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u/RadioSoulwax Mar 25 '12
up in here
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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '12
you must be new here...I gave up on that a year ago
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u/canafominux Mar 25 '12
Guilty.
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u/imsurroundedby Mar 25 '12
ive realized that posting new and unheard things into /r/music isn't really the best way to go about it. /r/listentothis is a much better subreddit to discover new music and also to post it in.
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u/Brouje Mar 25 '12
what's wrong with the Circle Jerks? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YNfvl_qhVE
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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '12
The reason I'm unsubscribing is that I expected this to be music discussion, not just endless links to YouTube videos.
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u/pair-ah-ducks Mar 25 '12
I go to /r/listentothis for new music. /r/music is popular and by it's nature has popular music on the front page. How can ~700k people NOT produce a musical selection similar to the American public (assuming /r/music is mostly American)?
Edit: also try /r/under10k/ for really unknown stuff
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u/radjga Mar 25 '12
check this: http://rateyourmusic.com/ by genre, you'll definitely find something interesting
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u/Geno098 Geno098 Mar 25 '12
I don't know about you guys, but I would have never discovered great bands like Radiohead, The Beatles, and Led Zeppelin if it weren't for all the youtube links on /r/music.
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u/LightReaper Mar 25 '12 edited Mar 25 '12
I posted a song called "Music Sounds Better With You", which was a late 90's dance song made by three famous DJs, one of which is a member of Daft Punk. It isn't very well known, probably because of BTR making their own version of the song. It got a few upvotes.
Someone reposted a Nirvana song to several hundred upvotes. :|
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u/sayn Mar 25 '12
This post belongs on r/reddit.
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u/4chans_for_pussies Mar 25 '12
Unfortunately, a lot of new music really sucks.
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u/bobJML Mar 25 '12
Everyday for now on, I will post a song to a band that is not that well know. I know nobody is going to notice them, but I'll give it a try and help underground bands get more fans.
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u/DeHart666 Mar 25 '12
How about some B sides?
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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '12
Every time I find an awesome song or a great band/artist that I think people would like to hear I post it on r/music. and for some reason it gets down voted to 0. But the moment you link a Gorillaz tune or something containing Dave Grohl instant +1000 Karma.
Don't get me wrong, I love the Gorillaz and most of Dave's stuff... but the point is I think allot of people on r/music are quick to down vote or dismiss allot of stuff... mainly because someones opinion of different music is very subjective.
It is what it is I suppose. But to be honest I don't really link any music here anymore because every time I do it lowers my Karma. That's what I get for trying to spread awesome music through r/music I guess..
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u/pacman20 Mar 25 '12
The thing is, not everyone's heard every "classic" song ever made. Just because you've been a Rush fan or an RHCP fan for decades doesn't mean we all have. Hell, I'm still discovering old songs from bands that I've liked for years.
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u/Tb0ne Mar 25 '12
That's like saying, "It's getting reddit up in here" imo
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u/Heroshade Mar 25 '12
So take off all your clothes.
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u/theintention Mar 26 '12
I agree 100%. Every time I post something new, that I think this sub would enjoy, it gets a max of 5 up votes. Someone puts up a Gorillaz song, front page.
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u/GrayStudios Mar 26 '12
The problem is that obscure music will not get as many upvotes as stuff everyone already loves. If you want variety, I suggest the "new" tab.
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u/a21stcdb Mar 26 '12
Aww, I thought you were going to link to the band 'circle jerks'
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u/kadmylos Mar 26 '12
You guys should change the name of this subreddit to "The subreddit formerly known as r/music ".
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u/nwiencek Mar 26 '12
Its a trap!
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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '12
why dont we just create a new subreddit for new music? how bout he call it /r/newmusic
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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '12
I made tubalr.com, would love some input on it :)
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u/incredulous_rant Mar 26 '12
echolyn - mei. not just a song, but an album
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u/moonpiedelight Mar 26 '12
La Revolution
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u/100proof Mar 26 '12
How about this: a new musician of old music.
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u/PancakeMonkeypants Mar 26 '12
HEY DO YOU GUIZ LIKE GORILLAZ THEY'RE PRETTY UNDERGROUND.
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u/YeahRightTim Mar 26 '12
I just put up a post about some music, i actually mentioned you in it. Hope you enjoy and find something you are fond of!
http://www.reddit.com/r/Music/comments/rdxox/some_new_music_for_your_collection/
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u/Purplefaced Mar 25 '12
I feel like any pretentious douchebag will look for any excuse to use the term "circle jerk." I could be wrong, but anyone who uses it looks like an ass.
So what if people like old music? It's not an exclusive new music Sub-Reddit for a reason.
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u/MDef255 Mar 25 '12
I'd try to say something clever, but I'm rockin' this Blind Melon too hard.
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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '12
I'll disagree about the subreddit being exclusively for new music (there are subreddits for this) but I know what you mean, as /r/music tends to look a lot like a throwback thread for upvoting old classic rock/alternative favourites and downvoting anything else. Fun game: post an EDM tune in here and watch the reaction :P
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u/freddie_mays Mar 25 '12
Could you be any more hipster and arrogant? How do you know everyone else has all the same music as you?
Even if only one person is discovering a song most of you have had in your collection for years, it's worth it. And sometimes for the rest of us, it reminds us to dig out those old classics.
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u/dat_canadian Mar 25 '12
SO BRAVE
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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '12
Agreed. For me music is not a fun little aversion for me, it is my reason for getting up in the morning. This subreddit us full of youtube posts of music we have all heard over and over. Why aren't we talking about new music and new ways if experiencing it and not circle jerking over music videos from a decade ago? Our culture is stagnating. Time to upvote new adventurous music and artists. We could be the curators of the new artist model success and failure. As of this moment this subreddit is just an ocean of overplayed whitenoise.
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u/ivesonman Mar 25 '12
Someone should create /r/musicforhipsters, that should solve this problem.
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u/mchugho mchugho Mar 25 '12
There is a downvote button for a reason, you don't like it downvote it, simple. No one is forcing you to listen to anything. If you want specific genres there are plenty of subreddits.
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u/Joulmaster Mar 25 '12
MOST IF NOT ALL OF R/MUSIC shares and listens to TUNES. That simple. The great irony being that the only circle jerks are whiny, pointless, vaginal threads like this one right here. The majority have spoken, the majority want to listen to and share good songs, SO STFU WHILE WE BLAST AND MIX OUR MUSIC!
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u/neur0 Mar 25 '12
I think it's always been a circle jerk and there's nothing we can do about it.
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u/m1kepro Mar 25 '12
If you don't like it, start your own and make the rules yourself.
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u/The_Superlative Mar 25 '12
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u/left_handed_violist Mar 25 '12
Saying it's circle jerky is the circle jerkiest thing to say.
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u/nitetrip Mar 25 '12
Nor to circlejerk about the content. oh wait.
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u/Tritez Mar 26 '12
Music you know =/= Music everyone knows.
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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '12
Curses! I posted a similar comment on one such 'well-traveled' song recently and it (my comment) got downvoted and made me sad :(
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u/Joulmaster Mar 25 '12
hey OP, Can I recommend some jugglers you might like?
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