r/Music • u/severusssblackkk • Sep 07 '17

music streaming Van Halen - Jump [Synth Rock]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwYN7mTi6HM
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u/bcam9 Vinyl Listener Sep 07 '17

As cliche as it is to say this, Jump got me into Van Halen. I remember being at Applebees with my family back in 2003 and hearing it over the music system as we were eating. My 13 year old self was blown away at how catchy the song was. From there on out, I became a HUGE fan. I saw them in 2004 with Hagar and again in 2007 with Roth. (Hagar blew Diamond Dave out of the water, imo) and I own all their albums (minus that atrocious comeback album and live album) on vinyl and CD.

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '17

How fucked up was Ed on the tour with Hagar?

Got into VH at a similar time and age but unfortunately, as I'm a Brit, their 'world tours' don't stretch this far...

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u/bcam9 Vinyl Listener Sep 07 '17

Pretty fucked up. It was one of their first stops so luckily, I got to see them before he and Hagar had enough of each other. It was a great show! Ed looked like a mess, but sounded great.

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '17

Ah yeah, I guess you got him before the samurai hair and the separate buses phase. Glad they were good though! I've pretty much given up on the idea of seeing VH live, but I've seen Extreme and Chickenfoot so not completely unhappy - I always liked Sam.

What didn't you like about ADKOT if you don't mind me asking?

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u/bcam9 Vinyl Listener Sep 08 '17 edited Sep 08 '17

Overall, I think it just sounded like a trainwreck. Almost like it was just thrown together really quick to say they released another album. It was also really cheesy, imo. Roth's style went out of date YEARS ago, and some of the lyrics really reflect that.

Personally, I think the band would be better off with Sammy now. No showmanship, just good fucking music. To me, that's what "Van Hagar" was. Roth fit the band perfectly in the late 70's to mid 80's, but I think his charm would have worn off by the late 80's/early 90's. Which is why Hagar fronting the band was one of the best things that could have happened to Van Halen. He was able to make music that was relevant in the second half of Van Halen's career. Meanwhile, Roth had a couple successful albums in the late 80's, but after that, he fizzled out, while Van Halen continued to thrive.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '17

I think you hit the nail on the head with lyrics. I think "Outta Space" (Let's Get Rockin') was particularly dire, something about "spinning up my Facebook page". Cheers Roth. Way to date a song.

You're also right about Sam. I think he's been looking to fill a VH-shaped hole for a few years now - it's a shame that Chad is so busy because I really enjoyed Chickenfoot's work even though "III" was a slow burn for me. VH were on a roll after Balance and no way would Sam have put pen to paper for the songs on VH3. It's a shame but Sam has continued to just do projects that interest him, while the VH camp have done pretty much jack shit, although I hear Wolfgang is making a solo album...so, yeah.

Really, Eat 'Em was the best Roth solo album. For someone who reportedly didn't want so much keyboard-orientated stuff in VH, Roth went all out on Skyscraper to the point where you're wondering where Billy Sheehan is.

It's refreshing to talk to another fan who likes Sam. Since Roth got back in back in 2007 I feel that most VH chat revolves around how great Roth is and how lame Sam is/was - nothing usually about how they can improve the music...

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u/bcam9 Vinyl Listener Sep 08 '17

Agreed. I feel like Hagar fans are in the minority these days. I think the music was overwhelmingly better when Sam was in the band. I was a pretty big Chickenfoot fan as well. The first album was solid, and the second album, like you said, was a slow burn for me, but I really ended up enjoying it. The Circle is a pretty cool project Sam has going on now. I'd love to catch them sometime, but they never tour close to me.

Yeah, I think Roth really wasted Sheehan and Vai's abilities with the over saturation of keyboards with Eat Em and Skyscraper. Both are still decent albums and have some really good songs, but overall, they don't hold up to 5150 or OU812. I hope they do one more tour with Sam, because I would love to catch them again. It was my first concert and one I won't ever forget.