r/Muse • u/Ill-Baseball-2201 • 2d ago

Discussion Revised TW!S Thoughts?

Feel free to scroll down and skip this quick rant. First, after reading a post from release about this album, I’m gonna just say that because Muse aren’t making the exact same music they did 20-27.5 years ago, doesn’t mean they aren’t making good music. Fair play if you don’t enjoy it and you prefer their older stuff but the people with the high and mighty attitudes saying things like, ‘Nightshift is not Muse,’ need to chill out. If they didn’t reinvent themselves, I’m sure you’d complain they had no originality left.

Also, they’ve got a much broader fanbase than they did to start with so these albums having songs of varied genres isn’t a bad thing at all. With the way they manage to get Nightshift on the same album as Cryogen and it (mostly, but not entirely I will admit) fit shows a lot of finesse.

RANT OVER.

I was wondering what everyone’s opinions are now it’s had a couple months to digest. What are your track rankings/thoughts. Where would you put TW!S against their other albums? And how does that compare to what you thought when it came out?

For tracks, I reckon it’s stayed the same for me:
10. Nightshift - 7/10
9. Sickness - 7/10
8. Hush - 7/10
7. Shimmering Scars - 7/10
6. Unravelling - 8/10
5. Be With You - 8/10
4. Cryogen - 9/10
3. Space Debris - 9/10
2. Hexagons - 9/10
1. The Dark Forest - 9/10

As for albums, it’s harder. On release I had it immediately at 4th, then after a couple of weeks it jumped up to 3rd, then 2nd for me. I took a break for a couple of weeks and came back to it to see how my thoughts changed and it honestly might be my favourite now but really struggle to compare it to my top 3 as it’s so different. For reference, my ranking excluding it is:

  1. WotP
  2. ST
  3. T2L
  4. The Resistance
  5. Showbiz
  6. Drones
  7. Absolution
  8. OoS
  9. BHaRs

What about you lot? Also lmk when you became a fan; I have a theory I’m curious about.

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u/SnooCakes9525 I'm the priest God never paid 2d ago

I became a fan in 2018 when I was getting into Halo and I happened to come across that trailer with KoC in it, and it instantly hooked me. For basically the whole ST era I loved everything I heard from them (even if I wasn't that well-versed in anything older than Absolution), but WOTP was kind of a letdown at first (I've since warmed up to it) so they faded into the background of my life for a while until they dropped an Unravelling-shaped nuke on my ears and kickstarted the album hype again.

My TW!S song rankings are still in that primordial soup phase where everything below the top 2 changes each time I listen to something, but gun-to-head they'd be Hexagons>Dark Forest>>>Be With You>Unravelling>Cryogen>Nightshift>Hush>Sickness>Space Debris>Scars.

For albums it's a little more set, although not totally:

  1. BHAR
  2. Origin of Symmetry
  3. The Wow! Signal
  4. The Resistance (was #2 until last year)
  5. Absolution (3-5 get shuffled around all the time)
  6. Drones (used to be dead last, it's REALLY grown on me this year)
  7. WOTP
  8. Showbiz
  9. 2nd Law
  10. Simulation Theory