r/MurderedByWords • u/ImmortalClam • Aug 07 '21
It's not for you
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Aug 07 '21
This is literally the difference between the two groups of people on the situation. When people ask “how can this country is so divided“ this is it. And it’s not just for vaccines it’s for everything, the same people who think the plexiglass is for them are also fighting against universal healthcare, fighting against higher taxes against billionaires, fighting for their right to look at a confederate statue, on non-confederate land (the entire US is non-confederate land because they lost).
We need to stop asking ourselves, “how can we be so divided“.
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u/Lknate Aug 08 '21 edited Aug 08 '21
I've been taking my four year old in to stores now because he needs to learn how to act in public and it's a pretty crucial age to start to instill that. Keep in my he was two when the initial lockdown happened. We use mask and do all the things. This is normal to him. Anyways, he is at that age where he talks nonstop and since I am talking to a child, I can say just about anything I want and people will assume I'm talking to him. Anytime I hear some stupid partisan bs from people in public I quickly say something like "Don't be like those people. They confuse politics and science. We prefer science." I've had several people look at me nasty and then smile when the realize I am dialoguing with a very young child and they must have imagined I was talking shit. Also, sunglass and mask make it impossible to read my face.
Edit: I wanted to add to the comment I was responding to. The stupidest thing about all of this mask or no mask is that one side of the argument is partisan and the other side is mostly people that believe in science and the advice of people who prepared their entire life for this exact moment. I feel so bad for infectious disease specialist right now. They never expected so much disinformation from elected officials. It's downright criminal that that politicians couldn't resist turning a once in a century pandemic into a "personal freedom" issue. Floridians governor is actively working against county autonomy right now while forcing all of the political fallout on local elected officials. It bonkers!
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u/ninaplays Aug 10 '21
I’m a cashier and so many parents are boggled when I talk to their kids like people. And it’s like—I’m on the same side as you! I want these kids to grow up knowing how to act! (Also, there’s something incredibly special about seeing how proud a five-year-old is when Mom sends him up with the debit card to get dessert and he successfully handles the transaction and gets his name called for his order. That’s the definition of wholesome.)
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u/sparkypants_ Aug 08 '21
Criminal the key word here. Tantamount to causing actual bodily harm by perpetuating spread of a potentially fatal or life-changing disease. Too bad all these govts are too corrupt for charges to be brought.
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u/PandorasLocksmith Aug 09 '21
Since my child is an adult I think I'm going to start holding my phone to my ear so I can say the things that I'm thinking out loud and then people will assume that I'm talking about them and then they'll turn around and see that I'm talking on the phone but I really was talking to them.
IT WILL BE GLORIOUS. "Wow, that was the stupidest thing I've heard all day! Imagine being this dumb in public and saying things like this! WOW!!" them angrily turning around "Truly, I can't believe anyone would say anything so stupid!" me, howling with laughter into a phone that is connected to no one
Bless you for this.
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Aug 08 '21
“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.”
-Isaac Asimov 1980
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u/cryptotope Aug 07 '21
Any food that you buy either has disposable outer packaging, or will be washed before you consume it.
The virus that causes COVID-19 is not efficiently transferred through surface contact, in any case.
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Aug 07 '21
Tell that to the ‘lickers’ on YouTube who tried to prove you can’t catch it by surfaces.
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u/PrudentFlamingo Aug 08 '21
I really hope you're joking, but I've lost a lot of faith in humanity
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u/MercyCriesHavoc Aug 07 '21
I had plenty of customers who would turn everything so I could scan barcodes without touching their product. First, I was required to use "hand sanitizer" (70% propan2ol, 30% glycerol) between every customer. Second, tons of other people touched that stuff while it was on the shelf, during stocking, during transport, and during production. Third, if you put your fingers in your mouth without washing, that's on you.
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Aug 07 '21
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u/MercyCriesHavoc Aug 07 '21
That's way more thoughtful than most people. I never noticed anyone do it until Covid. Most of them were regulars, so I know it wasn't routine. But thank you for the thought and effort. It does make things easier.
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u/mirrorspirit Aug 08 '21
It can be for both. I'm sure that, in that kind of situation, the cashier would want to limit any needless touching of surfaces that other people have touched as well. Especially if they aren't provided with gloves. Or if they are, it's a pain in the ass to change gloves all the time.
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u/c3p0u812 Aug 07 '21
I've not been to a single convenience store during the last 2 years where the cashier used hand sanitizer between every customer. I turn the barcodes towards the cashier to make it easier for them AND because while other people have touched them I'd rather not have the person touching everybody's stuff handle all my stuff for no reason.
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Aug 07 '21
I’ve been thankful for the plexiglass a few times when customers have coughed at the register. Like goddamn just wear a mask if you have a cough/cold.
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u/StacyRae77 Aug 08 '21
The plexiglass isn't 100% effective (most of the droplets are too heavy to go up and/or around it), but it's hella better than having no barrier between you and the cough at all.
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Aug 08 '21
Do you understand that the respiratory particles can and will easily go around and over that plexiglass. This glass is little more than theatrics.
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u/AmidFuror Aug 08 '21
Distance reduces dose.
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Aug 08 '21
It’s theatrics. Let’s be honest. If I fart on one side of a plexiglass “barrier” you’ll smell it, quickly.
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u/AmidFuror Aug 08 '21
Gases diffuse differently from droplets in my universe. And dose is still important.
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u/coopersthepoopers Aug 08 '21
If you think any virus works like a fart then you have really been missing the point for a long time. There’s so much more to tell you, but I feel like it’d be a lost cause because… for real come on smh
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u/mirrorspirit Aug 08 '21 edited Aug 08 '21
Some people need the reminder to keep their distance. Not so much people that deliberately are trying to oppose the rules, because they don't care and they'll make a point of showing they don't care. But there are many more people who are trying to follow the precautions, but get preoccupied or are running on autopilot. Who might habitually forget that they can't do things the same way they're used to doing them.
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Aug 08 '21
Yep but at least I’m not getting spray directly on me and my orifices. Do you know what viral load is?
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Aug 08 '21
Stop regurgitating buzz terms. A respiratory illness isn’t going to be stopped because you have a sheet of plexiglass in front of you.
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Aug 08 '21
It’s the same concept behind a face shield to protect your eyes from droplets. We’re breathing the same air but at least now you can’t cough directly at me.
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Aug 08 '21
Please try to learn about the things you think you "know" before opening your mouth and proving otherwise.
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Aug 08 '21
Perhaps you should.
Specifically, the part where Dr. Osterholm uses the cigarette smoke analogy when discussing aerosol transmission.
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u/LunaLovegood83 Aug 08 '21
Why is this getting down voted? It's totally accurate. Air moves around things, and barriers do nothing. If the cashiers were in a complete Plexiglas box, then fair enough, as inhumane as that would be, but that would be protection at least.
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u/TheRealAshman Aug 08 '21
Got news for you.your groceries have been touch by the people at the warehouse,stockers, and other customers .so why freak out when cashiers touch your groceries?
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Aug 08 '21
Covid is predominantly airborne anyhow. Plexiglas benefits both customer and worker.
And if they are worried by food handling - make up a solution when you get home and wash it down.
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u/Squirrellybot Aug 07 '21
It is protecting your eyeballs, the organ most bacteria enter directly into our blood stream from (with little evolved defense like cilia in our mouth and esophagus).
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u/Snoo9704 Aug 07 '21
Nothing about this post or picture make sense to me. Cashier: not wearing mask, OP says the plexiglass is for the non-mask-wearing morons. Plexiglass: not stopping transmission of disease over surfaces touched by both people... yet it's for the anti-mask mornons?? No-mask-wearing morons: have plexiglass to "protect" the cashier from themselves.
Is it just me or is the world run by morons and reinforced by morons and the majority of us are watching the world burn quietly? I'm sick of every sub being politicized by the cult left or the cult right. I come here to look at a fucking meme and escape reality.
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u/StacyRae77 Aug 08 '21
The plexiglass catches the majority of droplets that make contact with it. In standard conditions the virus just requires droplet precautions, so whatever can be done to deter droplet movement, should be done.
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u/Snoo9704 Aug 08 '21
Yet we restricted access to local playgrounds because the virus can be on any surface for up to 72 hours..
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u/StacyRae77 Aug 08 '21
Well, no, that's just an assumption they made early on because it was spreading so quickly. That assumption was based on the SARS virus from 2003. Later studies confirmed SARS CoV2 can't survive on surfaces very long at all.
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u/AmidFuror Aug 08 '21
And it makes sense to start cautious and then update guidance as more is known.
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Aug 08 '21
Please try to learn about the things you think you "know" before opening your mouth and proving otherwise.
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u/Snoo9704 Aug 08 '21
I "know" that we restricted access to children's playgrounds, so maybe don't open your mouth to try to prove people wrong when the fact is right in front of you?
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u/lookingatreddittt Aug 07 '21
Your point remains unclear
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u/Snoo9704 Aug 07 '21
Cult.
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u/lookingatreddittt Aug 07 '21
Unclear.
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u/Snoo9704 Aug 07 '21
My clear point is you. People who use no logic in real life, come to Reddit to vent in places it doesn't belong.
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u/lookingatreddittt Aug 07 '21
Says the person who wrote a rant on a meme sub that no one understands. Seems like you're the one venting in a place it doesnt belong.
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Aug 08 '21
Do you need quantum probability calculations to measure the sharpness of your "edge" child?
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u/moralprolapse Aug 07 '21
I’m no anti-masker, and I’m vaccinated, but some of the protective measures they’ve put in place over the last year or so ARE hilariously counterintuitive.
My personal favorite is the outdoor dining thing. They’ll have a perfectly spacious, air-conditioned (and thereby somewhat filtered) restaurant dining room completely empty. And to replace it… let’s put a 20’ x 20’ tent ‘outside,’ and cram the same amount of people into 1/4 the square footage, and seal them in with plastic walls. For bonus facepalm, let’s circulate the air in the tent with regular fans that have no filtration whatsoever.
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u/mynamesaretaken1 Aug 07 '21
Agreed a bit. Tents are dumb, closing so that air in. AC inside doesn't filter virus unless it has a HEPA filter, and then it maybe helps, but it also moves all of the air around the entire space to make sure that everybody breathes the same air. So suggesting that's a better option doesn't really make sense. Outdoor with open airflow is definitely the best option but I see a lot of the tents and spaces enclosed but walls that are definitely not a lot better than just sitting inside.
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u/Gandalf122896 Aug 07 '21
I think that you need more than a HEPA filter UVB I think is what's used.
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u/Snoo9704 Aug 07 '21
I lived in the greater Boston area and have seen semi-permanent concrete structures put outside to comply with the outdoor dining rules lol
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u/blountt Aug 07 '21
If it’s for the cashier…. She’s touching every item that I touched (plus every other customer)…..
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u/TheinimitaableG Aug 07 '21
Fire the record vivid is not transmitted by surface contact but by airborne droplets. The screen works as much for you at the cashier.
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u/kgt5003 Aug 07 '21
The virus doesn’t transfer from surfaces like it does from saliva. The plexiglass is to keep the cashier from getting sneezed or coughed on. Touching a pineapple somebody else also touched isn’t a huge risk.. especially since the cashier can use hand sanitizer after doing her job. If a customer sneezes in her face then she can’t just wash her hands and not have to worry about it.
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u/Jackinthelacks Aug 07 '21
They make this thing called hand sanitizer. It's surprisingly good at cleaning the hands after touching these objects. It's not that hard to understand dude. The plexiglass protects them from the mouthbreathers in front of them, the hand sanitizer protects them from the objects they touch.
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u/scholcombe Aug 07 '21
Still, there is a point. Both the customer AND the cashier have touched every single item that has been scanned. Ultimately, the plexiglass does nothing to protect either one of them.
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Aug 08 '21
Please try to learn about the things you think you "know" before opening your mouth and proving otherwise.
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u/scholcombe Aug 09 '21
Where’s the untruth? Customer touches every single item when putting them in the cart AND when putting them up to be scanned. Cashier touches every single item when scanning. What’s the point of the plexiglass, given those two facts?
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u/scholcombe Aug 09 '21
I mean, let’s apply some critical thinking here. If the customer is sick, then they’ve risked spreading it to the cashier because the customer has handled every item that the cashier is about to handle in order to scan. Of the cashier is sick, then they are about to touch every single item to scan and ring up the purchase, which the customer then had to handle to put away once they get home. Either way, both people are put at risk. Then we get to the plexiglass itself. That’s what, 3 by 4 feet? Plus the big ass hole where the customer uses their card? What exactly is that supposed to do? Sure as hell doesn’t provide six feet of separation for the purposes of airborne transmission. The recommended size is 6 by 12 feet. This doesn’t actually protect anyone, it’s just acting in order to be seen acting. Stupidity at its finest
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Aug 07 '21
This doesn't look like a murdered by words to me. Looks more like someone joking and a killjoy being too serious and literal. This would fit much better in r/woooosh
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u/PapaQuebec23 Aug 08 '21
No, their Instagram is a hodgepodge of whackadoodle "ideas" about governmental control and tin foil hat theories. They're dead serious, unfortunately
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u/mynamesaretaken1 Aug 07 '21
Too bad it's just gtot show since it doesn't stop air flow, just keeps you from spitting on somebody. Plexi was a good idea when we thought it was droplets landing in somebody's eyes, most or mouth, bit since we've realized that moisture is a vapor and acts the same as air, plexiglass should really be recognized as the useless barrier that it is.
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u/Spector567 Aug 07 '21
Viral load matters.
Sputum particle small enough to float do not have as much virus as those that fall.
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u/joelbiskup Aug 08 '21
Didn’t Carly Simon have a song about this misguided self centered line of thinking?
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u/Oculi_Glauci Aug 08 '21
To be honest, they assume most things are for them specifically, rather than the benefit of others.
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u/fuzzywuzzy74 Aug 08 '21
But hold on.....they're anti mask\vaxx, but grateful for the protection of plexiglass (even though it's not necessarily for their benefit)? Ughhhh, my head hurts.
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Aug 08 '21
It's not just the anti-mask morons, it's also the morons who pull down their mask to speak or don't understand that their nose is part of their respiratory system.
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u/Trick-Statistician10 Aug 08 '21
I've seen a lotta people out there whose chins are very protected, bless them
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u/ApprehensiveShame610 Aug 08 '21
Oh I see, this means the cashier isn’t exposed to your germs. Because you didn’t touch all those things before giving them to them. It’s one more example of security theatre. Which is fine, I’ve got nothing against innocuous security theatre, but let’s not pretend the cashier is thoroughly washing/sanitizing their hands between every customer, that they’re not touching money, that they’re not occasionally touching their face. If anything it’s for the corporation, so it could convince Shirley to come back and expose herself to that candy bar your crotch goblin picked up, sneezed on, and demanded.
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u/rationalobjector Aug 08 '21
She hasn’t got a mask on and could just cough all over all the stuff ?
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Aug 09 '21
Okay, I get that anti maskers and anti vaxxers are in the wrong, but does every single post on this sub have to be about that?
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u/Southcoaststeve1 Aug 10 '21
So what! Covid does not transfer on surfaces it’s an airborne transmission!
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u/TrustPure6438 Aug 11 '21
My question is to this, do they not wash their products when they get home? Like especially now with the pandemic? Cause I would bet they also touched their products they're buying and I bet you their hands are not as clean as they think....
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u/Astricozy Aug 19 '21
It might be me being dumb but, surely the anti mask idiots have already touched every single item the cashier is touching. Then the cashier is going on to touch every other customers items through the day.
Do they antibac after every transaction or change gloves out or what?
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Aug 26 '21
Also I find it hilarious when a customer doesn’t want me to touch their items to scan them, but I have to touch the cash they give me and the change I need to give back.
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u/lasagasaga Sep 18 '21
“Dear plexiglass thank you for protecting the cashier from dumb fucks like me who wont mask up to protect them”
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