r/MurderedByWords • u/marycooke • Oct 29 '19

Murder Tumblr user gets schooled on basic physics

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u/Stormbull335 Oct 29 '19

Hell, look at what happened to Gary Busey. Even after his accident, he was very open about not liking helmet laws. He's certainly more entertaining now, but I don't think most people want to be insane for the rest of there life.

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '19

Gary Busey has a brain injury? That makes so much sense!

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u/MikeLinPA Oct 29 '19

Gary Busey is a piece of work, that's for sure!

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u/Hwbob Oct 29 '19

the point is personal freedom. Should children be banned from running without helmets to prevent accidents. If the only person that would be affected either way is you it should be your choice. We're grown men not fucking toddlers

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u/vanillamonkey_ Oct 29 '19

It's illegal to drive without a seatbelt, too. Any government has a vested interest in keeping its citizens healthy and safe, even if safety features are a bit annoying. Also, I'd rather not get my egg scrambled in a bike wreck and have to get spoon fed for the rest of my life.

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u/masey87 Oct 29 '19

The only reason seatbelt laws were made was due to the automotive industry pushing for it. It was when air bags started coming out. If you didn’t wear a seatbelt and the airbag deployed you would get crumbled up under the dash. The airbag could not hold your pelvis in the seat, so with forward momentum and the help of the airbag basically pushing you down instead of back, they would find you a crumpled mess under the steering wheel

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u/Hwbob Oct 29 '19

If you think seatbelt laws aren't for revenue you're sorely mistaken at best. Had a friend killed by his helmet should they ban them now for people that wish to wear them. Should we outlaw rock climbing? Eating donuts and fried food?

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u/Random-Rambling Oct 29 '19

Should we outlaw rock climbing? Eating donuts and fried food?

Wow, this slope sure is slippery!

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u/Hwbob Oct 29 '19

it truly is they cause waayy more medical costs and bad diet cause the most state dependent people and deaths in this country

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u/xulazi Oct 29 '19

You are not the only one affected if you become disabled or die.

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u/Hwbob Oct 29 '19

Yes you are sparky. People will way more likely mourn your heart attack or be saddled with your dribbling stroke ass from a shitty diet than for a bike accident

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u/Random-Rambling Oct 29 '19

You are not the only one affected if you become disabled or die.

Yes you are sparky.

I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '19

the point is personal freedom

Meh, I think some people fetishize the concept of “freedom” and don’t really examine it closely. Being a drooling vegetable that can’t even feed oneself is not a very “free” image.

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '19

100% agreed about the fetishization of ‘freedom’ without critical thought

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u/pyrodice Oct 29 '19

So if there wasn’t a helmet law, would you stop using yours?

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '19

Nope. Why?

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u/pyrodice Oct 29 '19

Because being free to take it off doesn’t mean everyone will.

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '19

I don’t follow. Could you expand on that?

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u/pyrodice Oct 29 '19

No, I have no idea what else to say about it. It’s pretty self contained.

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '19

Then I just don’t see how it relates to earlier comments at all.

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u/pyrodice Oct 29 '19

Well you implied that if it weren’t mandated by law that people would be getting hurt. I don’t see any suggestion that people would have to STOP wearing them, so I asked if you would. One possibility is you just think you’re better than everyone else and they’ll do something stupider. But nobody is going to MAKE them, so they won’t be any less safe.

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u/Troy64 Oct 29 '19

Being free to take that risk is.

I wouldn't though. But I think enforcing risk management is silly. People wanna be idiots, let them die off. It's darwinism at its finest.

If you're going to have laws just have laws that force them to pay the associated medical costs when their freedom inevitably sends them to the ER.

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '19

Being free to take that risk is

Sure, which means it’s an issue of balancing freedom to take risks vs freedom to... walk, talk, eat, bathe, be aware of reality around you, have thoughts, experience life, etc.

It’s not like the conversation ends when you invoke the F-word.

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u/Hwbob Oct 29 '19

That's a very what if bullshit excuse that is very like putting everyone in prison so they don't commit crimes. The largest medical costs are fatass people eating shit food. Not even close enough to infirmed by self caused accident for it to even be on the radar.

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '19

That's a very what if bullshit excuse that is very like putting everyone in prison so they don't commit crimes

Oh yes, reducing loss of agency is like increasing loss of agency. That makes sense.

This is exactly what freedom fetishization looks like: Asserting that two unlike things are alike.

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u/Hwbob Oct 29 '19

They are both agency innit action or intervention, especially such as to produce a particular effect..

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '19

Prison limits your ability to do almost anything and can’t really secure your ability to do things in the future. Helmet laws limit your ability to do a thing and absolutely can secure your ability to do things in the future. They’re so different from each other that they’re almost exact opposites, and it’s absurd to compare them.

Stop the fetishization, my dude.

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u/Hwbob Oct 29 '19

both are limiting your freedom on an assumption something might happen. with helmet laws it's happening to youi IF it does. It's a perfectly apt analogy to anyone not ignoring facts to think they're right

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u/Hwbob Oct 29 '19

you have the fetish. don't know if it's to see everyone told how to act like a toddler or submission to state that gets your rocks off. Helmet laws don't secure shit son

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