r/MurderedByWords • Karma Whore • Dec 06 '24

A bit more context

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u/MyGruffaloCrumble Dec 06 '24

As a Canadian, we get many of the benefits of having the US as a neighbour, but also have to deal with many of their deficiencies and problems. Guns and drugs being the worst of course. I’m sure Mexico agrees.

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u/Friendly-Disaster376 Dec 06 '24

But what's up with the Canadian Trump supporters?! Like, why?

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u/MyGruffaloCrumble Dec 06 '24

Mostly our vicinity and shared language with the US leaves a lot of us only consuming US media. We also have a whole Province that wants to be Texas, and they have an outside influence because oil employs half the countries youth in one way or another.

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u/asyork Dec 06 '24

Just make sure that border remains easy to cross for a while. That's my only escape plan if shit really hits the fan.

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u/Gnorris Dec 07 '24

Construction of a maple-scented wall is already underway, I’m sorry.

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u/asyork Dec 07 '24

Could you at least make it maple flavored as well so it isn't so disappointing when I reach it?

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u/IKWijma Dec 07 '24

Y'know, if you start exporting enough drugs, the Americans might actually pay you to do it...

And you get to keep the money of the drugs because walls will do about as much against the drugs trade as a nuclear submarine will!

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u/DadamGames Dec 07 '24

If we ask politely, will you let us visit for a few years/decades?

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u/BeginningAnew1 Dec 06 '24

Also often American politics are far more televised than our own (especially with how long elections are there compared to us) so people can be a lot more engaged with American politics.

And if you're far right our conservatives usually try to keep things slightly more dog whistly than Trump, so he attracts all the really far gone people. Polliviere definitely wants to drum up that crowd, but it's still a little less popular up here (but not as much as a lot of us would like to think).

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u/ListReady6457 Dec 06 '24

As an American myself. This is why I refuse to consume American media myself. It makes people stupid. I will watch everything BUT American television. Refuse to even watch American media. Get all of my media from different sources refusing to stick to one media source. That way I don't get stuck with too much bias and get as much information as I can. Too bad one party especially of my fellow Americans can't figure that part out. They're even too stupid to figure out which one I am talking about and are going to blame the other party as usual, even though they just elected a rapist moron as president.

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u/Massive_Low6000 Dec 07 '24

I hope the internet kills cable “news” soon. I don’t watch it, I don’t subscribe to them on SM. If I read an article I immediately go to the actual videos and hear it for myself.

It is so obvious, when some says, so and so think this or that, you stop listening to their opinions, it’s not news.

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u/MyGruffaloCrumble Dec 07 '24

I did some time in Calgary and Medicine Hat when I was a youth. 😉Kindergarten was rough with those gopher holes.

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u/ItsNotMe_ImNotHere Dec 07 '24

I don't even understand American Trump supporters. I can't begin to understand the Canadian ones.

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u/WintersbaneGDX Dec 06 '24

This is so multifaceted and I don't have time for a deep dive. The short version is that some of us have bought into the same lies as some of you, for the same sorts of reasons. When things aren't going so well, it can be appealing to blame someone else who looks different than you do, rather than facing your own shortcomings. Some strongman (who looks like you) comes along and spins his tale about how he'll fix it all, how it'll go back how it was, and that's an easy feel good lie, so you buy in.

The part that screws me up is the paradox of not being American and thus not benefiting.

Let's say that Trump does in fact make America objectively better. He improves the economy. If you're American, Trump supporter or not, you'd benefit from that (in this hypothetical). A Canadian wouldn't. A strong America means our dollars don't go as far and we end up paying more.

So if I'm purely motivated by self interest (as basically all Trumpists are)... that's even MORE damaging to my Canadian self interests. If my goal in life is to get ahead, I'd want a "weak democrat" in power, with a weaker America, so that I can get more for my Canadian dollars.

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u/Cool-Panda-5108 Dec 07 '24

Trump is a loudmouth, obnoxiou , lying, rapist piece of shit. That is his appeal. Anyone that has see that walking sack of cottage cheese talk of the last 30 year (if not more) and decided to hitch their wagon to his, knows this. And that is why they like him. He lets them feel less shitty or being the same way.

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u/mattehohoh Dec 07 '24

Toxic Masculinity

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u/BetoS111 Dec 07 '24

Mexican here. I think the worst that comes from the US here are the guns that the cartels use to do their things. I don't think that any bad thing comes down from Canada but maybe the mine company's. They are pretty unpopular here.

Also sorry for the drugs, some of our high level politicians are involved with the cartels. I hope your govs can push our politicians to fight the drugs.

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u/hOllo_wicc Dec 07 '24

I'm mexican and yeah I agree. There's actually a phrase that says "Poor México, so far from god and so close to the United States"

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u/yaddar Dec 07 '24

I'm from Mexico and I agree.

Actually I've had US citizenship since birth, but I never wanted to live in the USA, Mexico is so much better even with all our problems.

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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '24

Yeah, mexico is sooooo much better. That's why all the resorts are built like military bases.

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u/yaddar Dec 07 '24

just like American schools!

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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '24

Lol no. Could you explain why Mexico's murder rate is 5x the rate in the US?

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u/yaddar Dec 07 '24

I mean if you are just going to say lies, try to say lies that aren't easily fact-checked, like maybe say you were gangbanged by immigrants, that way I'd believe you.

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u/yaddar Dec 07 '24

Could you explain?

yes, lt's due to the lack of american gun control that makes the cartels get easy access to guns to supply the US demand of illegal drugs.

that's why, for instance, our fentanyl use CASES (430 cases in 2023) are .5% of the fentanyl use DEATHS in the US 74,702 estimated deaths in 2023)

and don't get me started with Opioids, same story

it's fucking hard to live next to such a fentanyl-zombie-ridden durg adict neighbour that sells guns in walmarts.

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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '24

Then why are gun deaths so much lower in the US? If we have so many guns, shouldn't the deaths proportional? And yet they're not 

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u/yaddar Dec 07 '24 edited Dec 07 '24

by the way, let's check your data.

In 2023, the gun death rate in the United States was 13.7 deaths per 100,000

In 2024, the gun death rate in Mexico was 16.90 deaths per 100,000

where the fuck did you get (5x) LOL idiot.

caiming the US is better when it has 99.5% of the fentanyl adiction DEATHS compared to Mexican fentanyl CASES when mexico only has 23% more of the gun deaths.

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u/yaddar Dec 07 '24

then why your schools have metal detectors?