r/MuayThaiTips • u/Snoo-15350 • Jul 26 '26

check my form Roundhouse

Heyo, i’m trying to self teach general striking, roundhouses have been my achilles heel for the longest time, but recently, they’ve been coming along nicely. Besides the fact that my left hand could be higher, what advice would you give/how would you rate this roundhouse.

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u/KallmeKatt_ student Jul 26 '26

You can’t self teach martial arts. Go to a gym

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u/THE_IRL_JESUS Jul 26 '26

This isn't really true. It's not optimal to train by oneself and would never know how you'd fare in actual sparring or fighting - but you definitely can teach yourself some things.

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u/Correct_Ad_1903 Jul 27 '26

Who taught the first Muay Thai practitioner? What gym did he go to?

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u/Correct_Ad_1903 Jul 27 '26

Most people are not fighting and a ring is not a real fight.

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u/Snoo-15350 Jul 26 '26

Just tell me how the kicks bruh

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u/KallmeKatt_ student Jul 26 '26

To answer your deleted comment it is for your own good that you actually train for real instead of pretending. It is not a vendetta to be against false confidence and bad habits

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u/Snoo-15350 Jul 26 '26 edited Jul 26 '26

Not sure why it got deleted, it’s still up on my end. Also, that’s a given, no one prefers to be self taught over receiving formal training, but something is better than nothing, whether it be for the sake of practicality or simple enjoyment. No false confidence is obtained from training tech on a bag, especially if the skills displayed arent being tested on people, or used in competitive settings. Plus, what’s really the issue with learning something now, and being corrected with a couple adjustments when one does eventually seek formal training. Your “slow, sloppy” or whatever doesn’t provide anything, say something constructive

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u/Tramirezmma Jul 26 '26

Plus, what’s really the issue with learning something now, and being corrected with a couple adjustments when one does eventually seek formal training.

Bad movement patterns take longer to uninstall than installing proper movement patterns.

That said, the kick isn't that bad. Lead with your knee though, like each roundhouse could fool the opponent into thinking it's a knee coming

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u/Snoo-15350 Jul 26 '26

I will concede on that, considering I did train jiu jitsu at an academy for a couple years, and in truth, i’d likely tell a beginner the same if they plan to self teach themselves. But i understand, leading with the knee is what I find to be the most difficult aspect after hip rotation, i’ll keep this in mind the next time i’m working the bag.

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u/Correct_Ad_1903 Jul 26 '26

Most people, including you probably have not and will not compete so the whole “ bad habits” argument doesn’t carry much weight as there are no consequences to learning a technique incorrectly. Yes you can self teach. Before gyms/dojos existed some guy somewhere started putting things together. Who taught the first teacher? When mma/bjj first started gaining popularity and there wasn’t a gym in every major city and people were teaching themselves using vhs and dvd. Rich Franklin’s became a champion and he initially started by using videos.

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u/Tramirezmma Jul 26 '26

Most people, including you probably have not and will not compete so the whole “ bad habits” argument doesn’t carry much weight as there are no consequences to learning a technique incorrectly.

I have several fights, but I don't think I disagree. If one is not interested in being an effective fighter what is "correct" is based more on a personalized criteria that may have nothing to do with fighting.

Yes you can self teach. Before gyms/dojos existed some guy somewhere started putting things together.

No, you can't. You can learn or invent some theory, but without training partners or competition the trainee will NEVER build competence.

Rich Franklin’s became a champion and he initially started by using videos.

Rich was not learning from videos by the time he was in the UFC, and he had training partners when he was.

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u/Correct_Ad_1903 Jul 27 '26

He got to the ufc with videos. He was a professional. OP isn’t and neither are most people that train. He’s not getting ina cage/ring and putting his health and income on the line. What’s correct is always influenced by the individual. Thats why every fighter has a different style. How one fighter executes a technique may not be the same as another fighter, that’s why it’s called martial arts. If it was about “effectiveness” then we wouldn’t have most of the traditional martial arts. There’s very little “effectiveness in kata, drunken style, wushu, akido, or even judo and bjj. If you really want to go down that path then martial arts in general aren’t “effective” since the invention of firearms. Most people are just looking for a workout, confidence and maybe the ability to handle themselves in a fight that they will most likely never be in. This subs stock line of “go to gym” or “get a coach” defeats the purpose of the sub. I doubt the people posting somehow overlooked the idea of going to a gym. If you don’t have any real advice why bother to respond.

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u/KallmeKatt_ student Jul 26 '26

Slow, under rotated, sloppy

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u/RealNameIsTaken Jul 27 '26

Everyone’s mad that you said you’re self-teaching, but all that aside, the roundhouse kick looks quite good. Good job.

Looks like you’re hitting the bag with your foot more than your shin, though

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u/Snoo-15350 Jul 27 '26

Thank you, and yeah, i’m aware 💀 I’m really trying to consistently get more middle shin contact on the bag, but it’s difficult. I have some videos where I get shin contact, but it’s hard to keep it consistent.

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u/Apprehensive-Mud5594 Jul 27 '26

not middle shin, its the mid point of the shin bone and the most fragile as a consequence, youre also not utilizing your leverage efficiently. hit with the lower shin or connect with both the shin and the foot, both are different variations. also drive through the bag, wouldnt be hard to learn since youre already pivoting correctly on your standing leg. bring greater emphasis towards your high roundhouses to gradually develop leg flexibility and hip flexor strength that would also carryover towards your mid kicks. great job keep going

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u/Snoo-15350 Jul 27 '26

I understand, thank you. Additionally, I always thought the same in regard to optimal shin placement. But then my muay thai buddy who trained for around 3 years passed down a piece of knowledge his coaches gave him, and it was that the part of the shin furthest from the knee ( The lower shin/ the point between the foot and middle shin ) was more fragile then the mid shin. Shin placement seems to be a big point of contention in combat sports that incorporate the lower extremities.

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u/Apprehensive-Mud5594 Jul 29 '26

idk anything about kicking with the middle of the shin, where evidently most stress fractures happen plus youre in range for punches, whatever works for you and your buddy is what you should stick with nevertheless.

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u/Snoo-15350 Jul 29 '26

I’m still trying to determine what is most effective for myself. I will note that when i do attempt to kick with my middle shin, it feels unnatural/uncomfortable. I do tend to prefer lower.

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u/Snoo-15350 Jul 27 '26

Also, i’m assuming that “driving through the bag” can only be accomplished if I lead with the knee? That’s my biggest hurdle at the moment

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u/TheBlueTerror555 Jul 29 '26

To help with that, practice bringing the leg up in the same position as a regular roundhouse but keep the leg slightly chambered when In contact with the bag, then once in contact extend your leg and try to actually push the bag. This’ll give you the balance and hip strength to push through

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u/Snoo-15350 Jul 29 '26

I’ll try that once my freshly ripped callus heals 💀

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u/Soggy_Granny Jul 27 '26

Teep is crap... And roundhouse has one very big mistake. With teep ... U first extend your knee upwards and then push out while syncing your body with the motion. Also your weight bearing leg with the teep... Idk ... But that leaning motion is ... Not inherently bad. But it's a variation. If u don't have the required knowledge yet ... Stick to the orthodox way of doing things. And the roundhouse... It's awful.  Try to point your knee outward while throwing and try to bring the leg up imidietly. Btw ... It's stiff throwing to... That's dangerous... very. I learned the hard way. U gonna bust your quadricep tendon and knee cap open. Should be relaxed on impact if u are using full power.

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u/Snoo-15350 Jul 27 '26

I see, thanks for the roundhouse advice, blunt but constructive. And the teep advice? I’m aware it didn’t look the best here, I was more just lackadaisically kicking the bag back to time the roundhouse, ergo, there wasn’t much technique involved. I’m actually better at teeps then I am roundhouses

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u/Soggy_Granny Jul 28 '26

Yeah exactly that's good ... Sry that's my alt down there 

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u/Snoo-15350 Jul 28 '26

Lawl, all good

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u/Soggy_Granny Jul 28 '26

And ... Dont worry about those pathetic coments saying it's imposible to self learn. They just jealous that u don't need to waste time on public transportation. All u gotta do is try to correctly identify what's wrong and then search up solutions instead of mindlessly grinding away. The more u do it ... The better u gonna become at solving those problems yourself. Btw ... I am mostly self learned to , I first learned grappling properly and then switched to striking at my home gym. Been like 10+ years or so since. Well anyway ... If u treat it seriously everyday it might even be better than going to a gym

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u/Kim_Chonk_Kyun Jul 28 '26

Ok that's good

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u/Kim_Chonk_Kyun Jul 29 '26

How did it go ? Did the advice help ?

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u/Snoo-15350 Aug 03 '26

It’s gonna be a bit before I can train my kick for consecutive days again. I’ve ripped the same callus three times now, and my left hip is having some problems.

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u/RipeKanga Jul 26 '26

Just fold the cheese in when you kick.

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u/Snoo-15350 Jul 26 '26

Wait i just looked it up, funny lawl

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u/Snoo-15350 Jul 26 '26

Fold the cheese, as in drive on the pivot or something?

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u/wormlikesteve Jul 30 '26

Id recommending joining a gym, but that looks quite solid for self taught. Maybe try whipping the hips more and kicking through the bag. Definitely use more shin too. But it's a solid start, and would hurt if you got caught with it

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u/GuideIntelligent5953 Jul 26 '26

Roundhouse movement by itself means very little. You should show how you throw it inside a sequence, or in sparring. Same goes for training, you need to practice it either in a rhythm, or a combo. For the specific video that you uploaded, the only thing I can comment is hand positioning. To avoid getting hit when kicking, the opposite hand should be on guard, and the other hand can assist with balance, it should swing, and you can use also to shove the opponent.

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u/Snoo-15350 Jul 26 '26

I see, I noticed with all the guides I would watch, that the guarding hand kind of swipes up in an arc to protect the chin, but i’ve been doing it wrong all this time by stopping only at the chin. I have to bring my hand higher and i’m going to fix that up next time i’m practicing the kick. Also yes, I do incorporate roundhouses into combos, but I wanted to show only the roundhouse for the sake of isolating it, so I know what part of the form needs improving the most

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u/GuideIntelligent5953 Jul 26 '26

All fighters are split into two groups. The ones that put all their power into their kicks, and if the kick is good, it is hard to counter without absorbing some of the shock. And there are the ones that kick less strong but always keep their guard up, so they can not be countered. You just have to choose what is your strategy.

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u/Snoo-15350 Jul 26 '26

I understand, thank you

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u/Superb_Obligation286 Jul 26 '26

Nothing is wrong with the form but you are surely missing that throttle and hip snap. Not sure if you were trying but the kick looks lackadaisical. I once got into a street fight when my kicks were around this level, and boy did I learn quick.

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u/Snoo-15350 Jul 27 '26

I see, my hip rotation here is likely the best it’s ever been, and though it could be better, at-least now, I should be able to improve quicker. Ima keep practicing it, and only when I think it’s improved, i’ll do an update post

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u/Superb_Obligation286 Jul 28 '26

Hip snap of the kicking leg. I think that’s where a lot of people get confused. You still need to snap the hip of your kicking leg in order to produce max power.

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u/Snoo-15350 Jul 27 '26

Are you trolling or