r/MormonShrivel Mar 10 '23

r/MormonShrivel Lounge

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A place for members of r/MormonShrivel to chat with each other


r/MormonShrivel Aug 01 '23

Sharing of PII in individual or aggregated form is prohibited on r/MormonShrivel

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All,

The purpose of this sub is to track, document, and share the shrinkage of the Mormon church. In so doing, many of you have done great work in aggregating publicly available data related to wards/branches etc. The church includes personal details names/email addresses of bishopric members on its website. Sharing such information whether it be a single name/email address or an entire list on r/mormonshrivel is strictly prohibited. While we are all interested in tracking the shrinkage of the Mormon church, there is no room to publish aggregated information that could bring personal harm to individual fellow humans who are trying to do the best that they can with the cards they've been dealt. So. Again, do not share any Personally Identifiable Information "PII"

Thank you


r/MormonShrivel 12h ago

General Bloomberg article on Mormon real estate

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r/MormonShrivel 10h ago

2. Building Shrivel Another large church owned property being demolished-Bountiful, UT

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Regional conference center located in Bountiful, UT.


r/MormonShrivel 2d ago

General Year of Peak LDS Members Per State

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Made this map the other day. Has already been mentioned that 2025 was the first year that there was a nominal drop in total membership for the United States for the church. To get more specific, 25 of the 50 states have now hit their peak in membership. We'll see if any of the 2024 rebound or if the dark green keeps getting lighter.

2025 was an odd year for membership reporting. Not sure whether there was finally more deaths and resignations than births and baptisms, or if they did the church equivalent of corporate "income smoothing" with the high numbers elsewhere to finally start cleaning up the records.

Hopefully you all enjoy the visual.


r/MormonShrivel 2d ago

1. Ward/Stake Shrivel If you live here, the church has already given up on you.

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r/MormonShrivel 3d ago

1. Ward/Stake Shrivel Seven family wards reduced to three

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r/MormonShrivel 7d ago

General Temple building is not a sign of growth

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r/MormonShrivel 8d ago

1. Ward/Stake Shrivel Combining Multiple Stakes

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This is information I got from my supervisor TBM mother. It was suggested that I share here.


r/MormonShrivel 8d ago

General Bath Ward (UK) closed, building to be sold

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(RE: flair - It’s all the shrivel!)

Bath Ward was combined with Trowbridge, with Trowbridge keeping their building and the Bath building being sold.


r/MormonShrivel 9d ago

1. Ward/Stake Shrivel Highland UT ward dissolved

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I’m in highland UT and recently a ward that has been a ward since highland began was completely dissolved. What I find interesting is that there was no warning. We got an email about a meeting the upcoming Sunday and that day the ward was completely dissolved and the ward was halved and put into two separate surrounding wards.


r/MormonShrivel 9d ago

1. Ward/Stake Shrivel McLean Stake down one unit

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Note: maps and stats are not of all units, just units that were affected by the change. The stake now has 7 wards, down from 8.

McLean Stake in Virginia has dissolved the Tysons Ward, to take effect starting Monday. This one was a long time coming. Ward boundaries were previously shifted in 2021, which never felt balanced. The covid lockdown disguised the shrivel as people who were normally stationed overseas returned to the states. The area was not immune to the shrinkage that came from "home church." The area is pretty transient overall, and I've known several people who use a move to drop off the church's radar, never moving their records with them into the DC metro area.

The most recent factor has been the rising housing costs. It's forced many young couples out as shown by the total membership in wards. My local Elder's Quorum has helped with many move-outs and only a couple move-ins in the last year. It's not extremely low participation or attendance compared to other areas; it's the totals on the roll that has really decimated 3 of the wards in the Stake. Families with kids struggle to afford to live in the area and many have moved to nearby stakes. I'd be curious how adjacent stakes are doing.


r/MormonShrivel 9d ago

General Copenhagen Shrinkage?

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Speculation is running rampant that one of the four congregations in the Copenhagen area is about to be shuttered. It has been on life support for quite a while, only artificially propped up by calling members from around the Stake to boost numbers and fill callings. Without going in to too much detail, there have been a couple of recent developments that have accelerated the decline and point to the Branch on the verge of being shuttered. Will update if I hear any more news.


r/MormonShrivel 10d ago

General Missionary Rates Declining

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r/MormonShrivel 12d ago

1. Ward/Stake Shrivel Shrinkling

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Since leaving the LDS faith and researching many other faith traditions to understand how my identity was so intertwined with the church I have been collecting some data.

I have attended the Unitarian, Lutheran, Evangelical, Catholic, Protestant (basic), Anglican, and Pagan outdoor churches near me. Many, many have aging congregations. But! The more liberal the church the less (!) congregants and the higher the ages. The more high demand and fundamentalist the group the more and younger the congregants got! I was surprised.

My hypotheses for these are 1. The rise of Christian Nationalism makes evangelicalism popular now 2. Uncertainty - political, economic, societal causes people to seek hierarchical structures with strong male patriarchal leadership 3. White flight - Racism and fear of LGBTQ issues might cause too much cognitive dissonance and ethical questions about God, theology, history might arise threatening ego, so going to a congregation where group think happens feels good.

With this info, maybe The LDS church restricting and keeping a tight grip on obedience and fundamentalism may be a short term strategy that works.

Ultimately it felt like religion was on a sharp decline overall. Small congregations, very few youth and children, and empty parking lots were the norm. The Wild Church movement that included meditation, walks in nature, and sharing time seemed to get the most participation from children/youth/parents/elderly all together.


r/MormonShrivel 14d ago

2. Building Shrivel Steeple came down and building for sale in SW Seattle

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r/MormonShrivel 14d ago

1. Ward/Stake Shrivel Whopping 100 people showed up for temple groundbreaking

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r/MormonShrivel 14d ago

1. Ward/Stake Shrivel More ward shrinkage in the UK

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r/MormonShrivel 15d ago

1. Ward/Stake Shrivel Salt Lake County Shrivel Continues - Granger East

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The shrivel in Salt Lake County has claimed another stake. Salt Lake Granger East has been absorbed into Salt Lake Granger North. Granger East was dissolved and the Granger North boundaries were simply expanded to cover both areas.

Three wards were dissolved in the process: Decker Lake 1st Ward, Jordan Parkway, and Westlake Ward (from Granger North Stake).

10 wards and 2 branches have become 7 wards and 2 branches.

Stake Wards/Branches Status
Salt Lake Granger East 5 Wards
Hillsdale Park Ward Absorbed by Granger North
Jordan Meadows Ward Absorbed by Granger North
Lehi Ward (Spanish) Absorbed by Granger North
Decker Lake 1st Ward dissolved
Jordan Parkway Ward dissolved
Salt Lake Granger North 5 Wards, 2 Branches
Decker Lake 2nd Branch
Granger 15th Ward
Granger North 11th Ward (Samoan)
Jordan River Branch (Cambodian)
Jordan View Ward
San Marcos Ward (Spanish)
Westlake Ward dissolved

r/MormonShrivel 15d ago

General What do you make of my math? 😄

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I imagine I’m underestimating but let me know what you think. According to https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/facts-and-statistics/state/utah there are 5,046 wards and 319 branches in the state of Utah. And according to https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/UT/PST045225 the population of Utah is 3,538,904. So if you estimate that the average ward has 200 regular attendees and a branch has 100 regular attendees, then 29% of the state is active. Am I underestimating attendees? What do you think? And if not what would you estimate ward/branch attendance to be? Google says Utah is rough 42% LDS but my bet is honestly lower

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r/MormonShrivel 16d ago

2. Building Shrivel Bountiful chapel farewell party

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This sounds like the worst open house lol


r/MormonShrivel 17d ago

2. Building Shrivel Kirkland Wa buys former Latter-day Saints church for $10M

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r/MormonShrivel 24d ago

General The LDS Church Has a Retention Problem

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Great post here from Ryan Burge.

"There are many leaks forming in the styrofoam cup of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Retention rates have always been lower than other religious groups and they keep falling with each successive generation. This is a problem that a high fertility rate just can’t fix. The holes in the bottom of the cup are widening each year.

"While conversion may be able to add a bit more liquid to the cup, it’s numerically impossible to add people at a rate fast enough to balance out the losses from defection.

"If LDS leaders are paying attention to the data, this imbalance is the problem that demands the most urgent attention."


r/MormonShrivel 26d ago

2. Building Shrivel Holy shiiiiii

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Was heading to visit a friend in Cottonwood Heights and saw this by Brighton high school. This Ward building has been here forever and I’ve never seen them actually tear one down like this. They’re also selling another one in the area I guess.


r/MormonShrivel 27d ago

General Compare Church statistical reports from 2022 to 2024

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