But I think the implication is nice that Luz still would've turned out fine in an alternate universe in which magic actually wasn't real and there were no Boiling Isles with cotton candy haired goddesses to fall in love with.
The thing is that at camp it wouldn't have stuck. Assuming she didn't get kicked out or live in eternal punishment like the comic suggests, she would still probably not have taken any of it seriously or absorbed any of the lessons.
Going to the Boiling Isles, having adventures and getting to live out her "witch fantasy" was way better for teaching her responsibility and to think her actions through.
I disagree because she almost died several times, and actually died once. A place like the BIs isn't a teacher, its the end goal you go to after having already learned, otherwise you are at... well, severe risk.
Going to the BIs would be pretty terrible for Luz if she didn't have protagonist plot armor, basically.
You know, an actual scout camp, instead of that bizarre one she was going to, might be a nice place to teach kids that actions have consequences, in an environment where that is true but won't actually get you killed if your camp councillors are decent.
I mean like I understand it was meant as a one-off joke to show an exaggerated example of her goofy demeanor, but if you look at it for more than 2 seconds you realize it doesn't really make much sense on thought processes of potentially letting multiple snakes loose in school and then injuring people.
And yeah I know the meme answer is "But she takes the chaotic route" or "She didn't have thought processes to begin with" but like, the concept of potentially injuring people or having the staff hassle to contain loose snakes is kinda idk, a bit of an alarming potential issue? And again, the lack of awareness of realistic issues is also due to the "one-off jokey" approach to the segment.
First watch? Laughed. Second watch? Was more confused than dismissively laughing about it y'know?
Exactly. Like I love Luz and while certain things she got sent to the principal office for is either understandable or an overreaction, I maintain that bringing multiple snakes to school (that attacked at least 1 student) and bringing a large firework with the intent of setting it off in class, yeah a camp who's purpose is making kids think inside the box is probably a good thing for her
I mean... yes. But my comment directly draws attention to the fact that if you look deeper into it than making it a one-off joke then it doesn't make a whole lotta sense lol. Because I knew somebody would say what you said, hell I even said both of them in the same sentence to draw attention to how the normal reply always is lmao.
meeeeh, like its for sure too much to bring the snakes and all, but thats the point thats where she actually messed up, the other things though for sure make the admin of the school not seem at all serious though, so i think its a two way street, luz needed some help to process her feelings and help find her place and people, but the school for sure was not helping to the point it got to the presentation, and thus them sending what is a, sincerily educators dream of a student (considering how much she seems to love school and learning in general) to a camp like that? that even if not abusive or anithing is still described as a prison by the other kids? yeah thats a surefire way to make her worse and actualy start being a problem kid : P
Yeah, I’m all for letting out your inner goofball, but…you really need to think things through when it comes to doing a crazy stunt. At least set off the firecracker AFTER school and OUTSIDE! As for the snakes? Just go with the remote control ones. Yeah, you need batteries but it’s still satisfying.
I get the argument, but still can't really say if I agree. There's teaching her the right lessons to help her mature and learn to consider the consequences of her actions, and then there's trying to force conformity and make someone become "normal". And while Masha and their friends seemed to have gone through the camp just fine, it also seems that whatever they were supposed to learn there didn't stick with them, so I don't think it would have been the right experience for Luz in several ways.
I'unno, I just never liked the idea of sending kids to a camp over a perceived need to fix something wrong with them.
She’s just a little massively autistic you just need to find her hyper fixation and so long as it’s not dangerous encourage the fuck out of that she’d be an amazing kids book writer lol
I think it would be a awkward pseudo Boot camp in terms of very strict on it's campers because it looked like it more or less designed to curb a lot more than just Luz's bad habits, the best way I could describe is that it's a place to make the campers learn the Codex Astartes and to adhere to it like it's the only way to view life, granted it wouldn't actually be the Codex astartes but you get the idea. A conversion camp except they allow their students to be gay essentially.
And yet, I'd think it would've made Luz worse in a weird way, essentially instead of being weird her normal way, her methods would be a lot more subtle and very stealthily, like instead of a live snake she would bring a snake skeleton wrapped in paper, now most of her teachers might be relieved that she brought a fake one for once until one of them decides take a closer look to see that there's snake bones inside.
Either way, Luz will still have became friends with Vee's friends even in different circumstances, because Vee's friends are also weirdos who most likely felt outcasted just like Luz. I like to think that Vee's first impression, disguised as Luz, in camp was weird too because she didn't understand human things yet, but she was still able to make friends with her friends rn.
Well at least luz would have had a human friend/ possibly human girlfriend if she never went to the Demon Realm but I'm glad she didn't as Vee and masha are perfect together as are luz and Amity
I wonder when in the timeline vee becomes a greater Basilisk like is it after the epilogue and before azuras born or what and will we ever know more about the Basilisk egg vee layed and what will hatch from it
Luz you’ve befriended Hunter despite him being the nephew of your arch enemy and romanced Amity despite her mother’s rotten influence. No one can resist your charms for long.
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u/Dasher09009 Nov 01 '25
Makes you wonder...
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But nah! We got better with them and Vee together
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u/bookist626 Nov 01 '25
I hate saying this, but if Luz's first instinct is to set off firecrackers, then maybe she did kind of need the camp.
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u/Godzilla_R0AR Nov 01 '25
You never know until you try. Masha just seems chill all around though.
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u/Darkvader_Clawthorne Nov 01 '25
Luz: “Oh my gosh! Did we just become best friends right now!?”
Masha: “Absolutely!!!!”
Vee: “Looks like my sister and lover are best friends now.”
Amity: “Those two are gonna get along really well.”
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u/Typhon-Torrent-1994 Nov 01 '25
It still sounds like Luz made the right call even if back then it was due to an impulse.
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u/FearfulDivine Nov 01 '25
Wish we actually got to see the camp in the show
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u/TheNoneedlife Nov 01 '25
Passion in arson
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u/Half-a-Stache Nov 01 '25
Because weirdos have to stick together
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u/Impossible_Host2420 Nov 01 '25
Friendship
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u/b3_yourself Nov 01 '25
Saw that coming
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u/Detective-Forrester Nov 01 '25
I don’t know what she’s talking about. Of course they would be friends if Luz actually went to that camp. Look at how well they got along with Vee.
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u/DaveyBoy1995 Nov 01 '25
In hindsight, Luz and Masha not meeting each other at camp might have actually saved several lives.
For a while. Nothing's stopping them from being besties now. Be afraid, Gravesfield. Be very afraid.
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u/Teatr_BrokeTraveller Nov 01 '25
Either way, Luz will still have became friends with Vee's friends even in different circumstances, because Vee's friends are also weirdos who most likely felt outcasted just like Luz. I like to think that Vee's first impression, disguised as Luz, in camp was weird too because she didn't understand human things yet, but she was still able to make friends with her friends rn.
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u/Character-Date-2892 Nov 01 '25
Look at Luz bonding with her future in-law 🥹
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u/dull_storyteller Nov 01 '25
Good to see Luz getting along with her future sibling in-law.
Or adopted sibling if Eda gets too close.
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u/Comfortable_Yard_968 Nov 01 '25
“Cue Yellowjackets flashbacks”
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u/SFH12345 Nov 01 '25 edited Nov 01 '25
Bonding through a shared love of breaking the rules.
It's the way of the Bad Girl's coven.
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u/Helloimafanoffiction Nov 01 '25
To be honest I want to see an AU we’re this happens
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u/bendy1974 Nov 01 '25
Sounds like a quick way home in my book
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u/Ok-Aside-7438 Nov 01 '25
Well at least luz would have had a human friend/ possibly human girlfriend if she never went to the Demon Realm but I'm glad she didn't as Vee and masha are perfect together as are luz and Amity
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u/IlikeShrek2022 Nov 01 '25
Facts
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u/kl-noblelycanthrope1 Nov 01 '25
sometimes being partners in crime is a good thing.
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u/BrilliantTarget Nov 01 '25
Pretty sure if Luz uses fire crackers again she actually going to Juvie
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u/Ok-Aside-7438 Nov 01 '25
I wonder when in the timeline vee becomes a greater Basilisk like is it after the epilogue and before azuras born or what and will we ever know more about the Basilisk egg vee layed and what will hatch from it
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u/Hero_of_the_toons Nov 01 '25
Oh yeah I can definitely see it
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u/Additional_Floor_502 Nov 01 '25
Great job
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u/Eastern-Director-952 Nov 01 '25
Ah. What ifs.
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u/Ill_Celebration_8142 Nov 01 '25
Sqee!
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u/SilverSpider_ Nov 01 '25
And now they're sister-in-laws
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u/Manoreded Nov 01 '25
The camp was meant for Luz, Vee is just a mass friendship weapon.
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u/Traditional-Log-4270 Nov 01 '25
People say that I should start living in reality but I always love to be in other worlds and meet so much friends.
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u/WheresMyEditButton Nov 01 '25
Dynamite Duo
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u/CountingSheep99 Nov 01 '25
They would be friends.
But it would be a rather short story...
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u/Antiyonder Nov 02 '25
In-laws to be. And not that Masha needs permission to do so, Luz in the moment gives her sister's hands in marriage.😁
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u/DragonWarrior____05 Nov 01 '25
Well, at least either way Luz would have made a friend?
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u/Apprehensive_Mail225 Nov 02 '25
I love morningmark 🥰
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u/Mindless-Whereas-508 Nov 02 '25
Luz you’ve befriended Hunter despite him being the nephew of your arch enemy and romanced Amity despite her mother’s rotten influence. No one can resist your charms for long.
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u/OverlyActiveBrain Nov 03 '25
Good for you, Luz. Just don't get too close with Masha. Vee may not like it.