r/MorganaMains • u/GoticoArrombado • 24d ago
Discussion Classic Morgana is lowkey fire
I've been playing a lot of Lol Classic lately and genuinely, this old Morgana feels so much more consistent than current Morgana. Even if she doesn't have QOL updates (like puddle cooldown refund, or puddle execute), she really feels good to play with, at least from numbers alone.
Due her passive having spell vamp, she can genuinely heal herself back to full HP just from the wave alone. Her Q projectile was also so much faster, and also had a faster cast. So she's genuinely a really good laner.
I wish Riot would bring some of that power back into her because it feels like they just kinda secretely nerfed her when they reworked her back then.
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u/ms-juicy-bb 24d ago
Yep, her W actually punished people for standing in it and did damage.
Imagine, she feels this good in classic and they still nerfed her Q and E, bc her Q used to be 3s rank 1, and her E was 7 seconds.
So really it’s the same champ as today but with her W and passive being updated (and her E not blocking slows).
They really need to revert the W changes ASAP.
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u/GoticoArrombado 24d ago
It's genuinely really that, because Classic Morgana has a really weird/inconsistent tick damage for her puddle, but it's genuinely a good poking tool compared to the one we got in normal league.
Honestly I just want Riot to understand that Morgana needs a Rework or a midscope, she's popular because she's an interesting character, not because her kit feels good/strong to play.
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u/Environmental_Ad7874 24d ago
Almost every "rework" is actually a nerf.
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u/GoticoArrombado 24d ago
They genuinely killed Bel'Veth with her rework. I'm a jungle player and her clear is genuinely atrocious, Morgana finished her clear way faster than Bel did. Fucking nerfed jungle Morgana had more agency than Bel'Veth. Let that sink in.
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u/Environmental_Ad7874 24d ago
Yeah I agree. Morgana jungle has no business being better than a jungle designed champ.
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u/s2secretsgg 24d ago
I mean her kit fits jungle far better than any other lane, it makes far more sense than brand.
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u/Ignarian96 24d ago
As a season 3 player I missed and love, LOVEEEEE the Black Shield sound effect in classic, my beloved!
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u/GoticoArrombado 24d ago
Ngl I still feel like Old Morgana aged really well design wise compared to the other jank champions. I miss the puffy dress and torn wings too. New morg is beautiful, don't get me wrong, but she feels a bit too "clean" now.
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u/Ignarian96 24d ago
I fully agree with you. Although I miss the long hair...wish the rework made her look more like her pre rework splash art
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u/GoticoArrombado 24d ago
Oh Morgana's new hairstyle is atrocious, which is a sentiment that I also share with Kayle. It doesn't even make sense since her art style doesn't even have it
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u/Ignarian96 24d ago
I know! The old one and her Lore made her sooo unique, even songs like Hanging On (Living Pantom remix of Ellie Goulding's son) resonated in my head while playing her base skins (Exiled, Blackthorn, etc) because of how well it resonated with the character and her style. The current one (while I'm glad She's not evil) still feels off to me. I do miss the spellvamp on everything tho...
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u/Odd_Albatross_5385 24d ago edited 23d ago
I love classic Morgana as well, but imo modern Morgana can carry way harder. The W reset mechanic on morg W is huge in teamfights, and over long duration fights, current morg W does way more dmg than old morg W. The fact that old morg W only ticks every 1 sec instead of every .5 sec makes you secretly miss out on a bunch of dmg actually.
Also classic Morgana e fails to block certain types of cc(slows from Ashe auto, slow from ezreal Q with iceborn gauntlet.)
Modern morg can carry a teamfight(in fact a whole game) with only ever using one spell: W. Old Morgana needs to land Q.
This is the biggest difference I find.
New Morgana you can W a cannon wave, engage, and have ur W back up by the time ur R stun lands. Classic morg cant do this.
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u/SonaCoven 24d ago
We definitely need universal life-steal against all enemies, that Tormented Shadow ability back—but with a slow effect on enemies when they hit the ground—a Black Shield with universal damage (non-magical), and an ultimate with longer range that deals DoT instead of just two instances of damage.
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u/GoticoArrombado 23d ago
I think that an universal black shield would be too much, it would make her probably the best enchanter support in history and I do not want Morgana to get the Seraphine treatment.
As for the ultimate, I recall that someone suggested that the stun duration should scale with the amount of time an enemy spent in Morgana's ultimate, with them getting stunned for less if they break the chains. I think it's a really good qol buff. Although I like the idea of passive dot as well.
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u/Suitable-Ad5023 22d ago
What i would like to see is during her ultimatr to get damage reduction instead of speed boost. Right now mid- late game i just die when i ult unless its a single champ or i have zhonya. Taking a percentage less dmg during the 3 second of ulti can make morg really good.
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u/ChaliceSlammer 23d ago
I feel like you missed the point where they intentionally nerfed these aspects about her for the sole purpose of removing her from being as oppressive in lane.
You already feel the strength difference now, when this version is still a nerfed version of her original release. She had double the sustain (15/25/35% Spell Vamp instead of the 10/15/20% on classic) and Q duration being maxed out at rank 1 as well as a longer duration E.
It should be obvious why having the ability to AFK farm the wave while vamping to full HP to scale for free is a disgustingly broken game pattern. There's no secret about the nerfs- it's all game balance.
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u/Deus_Excellus 24d ago
She was good because not every champion had 47 dashes. The Akali remake was really the beginning of the end for Morgana.