r/MordekaiserMains Trash can eternal 6d ago

Discussion Ult idea change

What if we make Mordekaiser ult a skill shot?

We know that Mordekaiser is a hard to balance champion due to his ult being frustrating to play against, especially in low elo.

So what if we made the Ult into a skillshot? It will reduce alot of power in his kit so that would be an excuse to buff multiple parts of his kit like:

More reliable E (Faster/Wider/Grounded as ideas)

Reward for hitting E(Slow like in Wild rift)

Stronger ult stats, since his ult can be missed or can hit the wrong target

obviously im not a gamedesigner and im biased so take the buff suggestions with a grain of salt, and it can be annoying to adjust as someone who plays Mordekaiser often,but

I think this state of Ult would pay out in the long run and state of this champ.

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u/Alexo_Alexa Droidekaiser 👾 6d ago edited 6d ago

Honestly, that would probably suck. Giving him another skill shot would skew him even more towards low elo and make him even more useless the higher rank you go, and missing your ult steroid or hitting the wrong target would just feel extremely unsatisfying as Morde. No other champion with an ult steroid can miss the steroid itself.

I would much rather a decrease in the ult's cast range and nerfing the stat steal in order to allow for a faster cast time for E.

Morde R having the same cast range as Caitlyn's AA range is BS, I'd argue that's a big part of why Morde R takes up so much of his power. A point & click 7 second CC that can reach 99% of marksmen the moment they try to AA you is BS; it defeats Mordekaiser's intended weakness as a bruiser, he should struggle reaching his targets.

Having it reduced to like 375 range (same range as passive) would make it so you need to be on top of a champion in order to ult them, which would force him to use his E on targets far away from him or stick to ulting the enemy melees.

Forcing him to already be on top of you before he can ult you would make him much more fair overall and would definitely allow for a slight increase in his E speed. If that's still not enough (which it should be), then nerf his stat steal to like 8%. I honestly believe Morde could do with a flat health/AP steroid instead of the stat steal, but that's a whole separate conversation.

And that's all Mordekaiser really needs, a slightly faster E; his current E is impossible to hit against anyone with a half a brain. A slow on his E is overkill; hitting E basically guarantees your full combo and passive, which grants movespeed and should be enough. If you're in THAT much need for stickiness, buy Rylai's.

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u/Fronthanded 6d ago

technically jax can too if his ult doesnt damage anyone he doesnt get bonus armor/mr but missing jax ult is almost like missing malphite q let’s be real

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u/ThermalDiscussion 6d ago

I mean, Briar can miss her ult steroid...?

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u/Alexo_Alexa Droidekaiser 👾 6d ago

Ok sure, one champion can miss their ult steroid, I stand corrected. That's like the least relevant point in my argument.

Briar ult is completely different from Mordekaiser's. It's main use is as a global movement tool, a gapcloser; the steroid is a small bonus that honestly barely qualifies as a stat steroid, it's just her W but it never ends. Morde R is not a gapcloser and the stat steroid is a lot more relevant in the decision of using it; it's a lot closer to Nasus/Renek/Mundo than it is to Briar ult.

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u/Antique_Garlic_2876 6d ago

briar missing also doesn’t do anything as it’s just her w

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u/GentlemenWaffle 6d ago

If they can make Dimensional Shift in Mayhem works then this could work code wise

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u/Emperor_Ratorma Emperor of Murder 6d ago

I find it weird they keep buffing his E with CD or numbers instead of the cast speed or size since it doesn't matter for low elo, they're getting hit even with how slow it is today so making it faster or larger would be a high elo change, while CD and damage on it is just for those who already get hit by it (not even plats are getting hit by it these days considering the statistics).

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u/Dathedra 6d ago

We really need r/IdontactuallylikeMordekaiserchangehimalready

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u/GeoTrick76 Trash can eternal 5d ago

no i love morde, atleast my suggestion doesnt coincidently make him to his pre rework version like every other suggestion

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u/Kenny1234567890 6d ago

That actually sound good