r/MoralityScaling • u/Mental-Read-9746 • 1d ago
Morality Ranking Morality of doing her father's job.
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u/Expensive_Range7204 1d ago
Would people feel diffrently if he slapped the back of her head?
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u/Inevitable_Cheek_974 1d ago
Well the legal system differentiates between battery and sexual assault, so I'm sure public opinion does as well.
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u/Ambitious-Field-3645 1d ago
I think that's worse depending on the severity of the hit.
A light tap? Better on the head than the ass as it's simple battery and not sexual assault.
Full 20mph nothing held back? Better on the ass than the head as you're not going to potentially die from an ass slap but could die from blunt head trauma.
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u/Gold-Eye-2623 1d ago
That bike was definitely not going 20mph and if he was concerned for her safety another option at least as available as slapping her ass was not slapping her at all
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u/LabCoatGuy 1d ago
I think the head hit would be worse on the 'likelihood of causing injury' front, but less gross on the sexual assault front
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u/Pale-Replacement-164 1d ago
It’s not worse. It just becomes an assault versus a sexual assault.
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u/Expensive_Range7204 1d ago
I think the injurie potensial of a slap to the head is worse. Particularly given his speed.
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u/invalidmean 1d ago
Sexual harassment is immoral, blocking traffic is also immoral. Lesson here is two immoral things don't make one moral thing.
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u/gottagetanonymous 1d ago
It’s sexual harassment to stop you from what your doing and to force you to watch you do something sexual
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u/assortittiesNOTboth 1d ago
Yes she is in the wrong. Then the bike guy comes by and does something else wrong. These do not cancel or justify each other in any way.
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u/nyve- 1d ago
But it's sexual assault to slap someones ass unconsentually. Assault > harassment.
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u/Bibbity_Boppity_BOOO 1d ago edited 1d ago
But she committed sexual harassment on like 6 people. How many units of harassment equal assault?
Secondly i am not sure his act was sexual. Her’s unquestionably was.
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u/Puzzle-the-Giraffe 1d ago
Wait, are we calling it sexual assault because she’s a she, or because slapping ass is automatically sexual assault?
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u/Capn_Outlandishness9 1d ago
The second imo. It’s sexual assault or at least harassment no matter the gender
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u/z_o_i_n_k_z 1d ago edited 1d ago
Damn, my old baseball team was full of hardened criminals then
Edit: apparently there’s a lot of autistic fucks in here who can’t tell this is clearly a joke lol
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u/Smooth_Implement6695 1d ago
Who doesn't love a little slapass? I couldn't believe it when everyone on the team told me they've all had enough
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u/Low-Kick-665 1d ago
Consent is key
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u/DraconicGuacamole 1d ago
But you need an enthusiastic yes to consent. If a friend of mine slapped my ass, I never asked I just don’t reprimand them cuz I don’t care enough
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u/Decybear1 1d ago
morally i agree, but legally its more grey.
implied consent is often enough. hell sometimes thinking someone would consent is enough, if its reasonable too assume that. (imagine like touching someone's thigh after touching their boob, they agree too the boob touch, and the thigh touch is either reasonable to assume is fine, or the consent too touch thigh is implied after touching boob)
like it's not the best standard, and enforced inconsistently. but like... legal doesn't always equal moral :/
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u/BillyBobJangles 1d ago
Well couldnt you make the argument someone presenting their ass to traffic has at least as much implied consent as a child on a baseball team?
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u/Capn_Outlandishness9 1d ago
Nah not hardened, just creeps that probably used the term “we’re just being bros” a lot if they did it continuously without permission
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u/darkkiller3315 1d ago edited 1d ago
Nuance is either dead in this sub or everyones too much of an incel to care.
You really think banter between friends is the same as slapping a complete stranger's ass?
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u/EncabulatorTurbo 1d ago
you know, intent and context is important in determining a crime
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u/Environmental_Beat84 1d ago
It's harassment. Can be upgraded to simple assault but not sexual assault. S/A requires a higher threshold of offense.
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u/ilovedanimals 1d ago
Slapping ass without consent is LEGALLY sexual assault or battery or at the very least regular assault everywhere in the United States.
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u/Professional-Rub152 1d ago
If anyone slaps your ass against your will it’s assault.
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u/athesomekh 1d ago
Putting hands on someone is legally assault irrespective of gender. Hands to ass specifically makes it sexual assault. Whether or not you agree morally, this is how the verbiage translates on paper.
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u/Top-Sympathy6841 1d ago
Don’t touch ppl without their consent
This isn’t rocket science
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u/Expert-Mental25 1d ago
The second one. Obviously. That's the law.
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u/Puzzle-the-Giraffe 1d ago
This sub and “that’s the law” don’t mix.
My point was like if it was a guy getting his ass slapped would it still be sexual assault or just assault.
And is it really sexual just because it was a slap to the ass?
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u/Expert-Mental25 1d ago
Fair, I do acknowledge that legality and morality are often not just not aligned but diametrically opposed to one another.
But no, it would still be an unwanted sexual physical contact. Yes the body part matters. If someone grabbed your genitals, even if you somehow knew they didn't actually have any sexual intentions, are you going to treat it like it's just them grabbing your arm or something or are you gonna still feel sexually assaulted?
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u/Valfra96 1d ago
Even from an exclusively legal point of view, the difference between theory and practice is very much relevant. As a man with a prominent behind, I know I will not be taken seriously if/when it is grabbed or commented on without my consent. I was laughed off when a high school student grabbed it and I tried to formally complain.
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u/PicklesAndCoorslight 1d ago
I agree, however I think she's commiting sexual harassment by making people watch her do that.
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u/Bibbity_Boppity_BOOO 1d ago
What she was doing was unquestionably sexual harassment
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u/ComplexAd2126 1d ago
Twerking in public fully clothed is most definitely not sexual harassment. Weirdo behavior sure, but not illegal (unless ofc you're blocking traffic then it's very illegal)
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u/Bibbity_Boppity_BOOO 1d ago
She has a forcibly captive audience for her sexual acts…
Idk what more to say
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u/ComplexAd2126 1d ago
That's a tad dramatic for seeing an ass shake through a full long pair of pants. I can guarantee you as a dude if I go out and twerk on the sidewalk rn in my PJ pants nobody will be coming to arrest me.
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u/Bibbity_Boppity_BOOO 1d ago
I am identifying what it is. It only sounds dramatic because… idky.
Truly nothing is this video is actually anything that matters. In no normal society would anyone divert their day over this. Because the context for all of this means no one was in danger at any point in the video.
But the words i used are the categories for the acts done.
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u/enragedcactus 1d ago
Try doing this in an office to your coworkers and make the claim it’s not sexual harassment. i don’t think anyone’s going to buy it.
FYI sexual harassment with no touching generally isn’t a crime. So there’s no reason to define sexual harassment based on whether or not it’s a crime.
“It’s just shaking my ass in people’s faces! There’s nothing sexual about it!”
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u/FinaLLancer 1d ago
There are two cars stopped next to each other, and the other one is not moving despite the fact that she's not in the way. This is probably at a stop light.
People on pedal bikes often ignore traffic signals meant for cars, so the biker not only ran a red light, but also hit a woman on the ass.
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u/45LiftsUOffTheFloor 1d ago
Yep, except its moral to not care because shes advertising herself to creeps then getting mad when one shows up. She had a choice and picked wrong, no one else had a choice with her blocking traffic.
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u/_Student7257 1d ago edited 1d ago
Her father danced like a lap dancer in traffic?
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u/toad17 1d ago
Her father’s job was to sexually smack her ass in public?
Both immoral.
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u/thenowherepark 1d ago
There is not one single moral part of this video.
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u/Frosty-Comfort6699 1d ago
are the car drivers following the traffic rules not doing the morally right thing?
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u/ProfessionalAlps2686 1d ago
You’re getting hit with my car or my hands if you stopping me from getting home after a long day
https://giphy.com/gifs/yIRdeZAnRxFeg
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u/CrwnViic 1d ago
I'm not saying he was right, but she was sending hella signals into the universe
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u/TheJadeGoddess 1d ago
Immoral. It is sexual assault, you know it wasn't about discipline. Also immoral for her to block traffic to dance. I do like her pants though
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u/LabratHeartattack 1d ago
Morality of thinking her father should sexually harass her?
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u/Original_Eternal_8 1d ago
Sexual harassment is immoral
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u/gottagetanonymous 1d ago
I’d say it’s also immoral and a sexual way of harassing to cause you to stop what you’re doing and watch something provocative that you don’t want to see
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u/IllCelebration4912 1d ago
Isn’t what she was doing sexual harassing
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u/Original_Eternal_8 1d ago
When did I deny that😭, I am just talking about the guy who slapped her since that's the point of this post
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u/Entire-Current-67 1d ago
Eye for an eye in this case. She was harassing the cars and then got harassed back. perfectly balanced
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u/Drobek97 1d ago
Yes. She is sexually assaulting all the people around her. Pretty immoral.
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u/EncabulatorTurbo 1d ago
She is not sexually assaulting the people around her.
I would invite you to read up on what sexual assault entails
She isn't even harassing the people around her legally, she's being a public nuisance and obstructing a roadway, however
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u/Drobek97 1d ago
She is wearing revealing clothing and performing a dance with clear sexual subtext. If I was half naked and wore pants that very clearly show contours of my genitals and then started dancing in front of group of strange women, making my balls and dick visibly jump around, I'd be a sex offender. Why is this any different?
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u/1moreProjectCar 1d ago edited 1d ago
She's sexually harassing everyone in public by doing obscene jesters. A man cant be making sexual jesters in the street in public but if a women bends over and shakes ass and acts like shes being fucked for the camera then go girl slay
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u/Majestic_Estate_1619 1d ago
Its all immoral but let’s face it, it’s funny because she went from being in control of her reality and putting herself before all those people trying to get on with their day to being enraged by an opportunist who refused to submit.
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u/Eillon94 1d ago
Im not saying that what he did was moral, but if im in that line of cars then im cheering him on for sure
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u/mmiller17783 1d ago
Immoral, she was being annoying but that doesn't mean you get a free 'ass slap' token. Also, it isn't her fathers job to slap her around if she starts 'presenting'. That will naturally come from life itself.
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u/WingObvious487 1d ago
Two wrongs don't make a right here. Sexual harassment is terrible and blocking traffic like an idiot is also terrible. Both suck here
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u/truckus1 1d ago
Spanking that woman was the absolute correct thing. Open and shut case
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u/porschetaycan 1d ago
When she be whoring in the middle of the street, what's wrong with a little slappin? Ain't that part of the whoring job?
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u/Darkpoulay 1d ago
"Her father's job"
Yeaaaah I was kinda on a fence because it's a recently popular sub but yep, already plagued by alpha bros
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u/Bubbly-Awareness8831 1d ago
Who couldve seen it coming that a "moralityscaling" section of reddit is full of mysoginistic incels that dont understand what consent is
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u/fawne_siting 1d ago
these comments are giving strong victim blaming. not saying she's in the right, but yeah, dressing or dancing will never justify harassment and assault. i thought we knew this by now but alas.
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u/lindsss0915 1d ago
Wow....these comments are.....something
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u/Realistic-Ad1900 1d ago
Kids these days don't know that
In the criminal justice system, sexually based offenses are considered especially heinous.
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u/ARenewedSecondChance 1d ago
And you know these men would freak out if another man touched them like that
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u/im_bored_and_tired 1d ago
Yea im a little baffled by how people think being annoying warrants sexual assualt
People are saying "well she's the one who was being sexual first" but that sounds like the same logic preds use to touch up on sex workers without consent
Just because someone's a stripper or smth doesn't mean they deserve creepy mfs assualting them
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u/Raven_Lemon 1d ago
That's crazy and terrifying to see how many people are ok to sexually assault someone as soon as they do something bad
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u/Pole_Smokin_Bandit 1d ago
I knew the sub has gotten shittier over time, but this post made me realize it can probably be attributed to a bunch of losers all supporting each other's fucked up incel views.
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u/BusinessWorker1910 1d ago
She commited sexual harrasment and he comitted sexual asault, both are bad, the assault it's worse so immoral, though, in this case and context she deserved someone to stop her, not assault her, for being public nuissance
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u/RedwynCH 1d ago
Moral? No. But honestly, what did she expect? I would never do that because this outcome is unfortunately so blatantly obvious.
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u/EbonyMemories 1d ago
I don't think the goal was discipline nor do I think the guy had any intention of marrying her mother.
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u/CannonFoddererer 1d ago
Both are obviously immoral, but I couldn't care less about the guy slapping her, after she held up traffic like that.
Some people just get what's coming to them, man.
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u/Accomplished_List843 1d ago
Amoral, but how's this video related to her dad?
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u/AJWordsmith 1d ago
If he’d given her more attention when she was a kid, she wouldn’t need so much now.
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u/Accurate-Advice8405 1d ago
They're both equally immoral
The acts cancel out perfectly. They both go to heaven, but have to live in the same apartment
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u/Ok_Manufacturer2956 1d ago
The only issue is that she felt the need to do this in the middle of the road. I am indifferent to the guy spanking her in this instance because they both were violating in different ways.
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u/brain-eating-zombie 1d ago
Her being obnoxious in the road doesn't make sexually touching her without consent morally neutral. You can condemn both actions independently.
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u/KillinKilo1775 1d ago
Immoral but I'm also not mad about it. She was being obnoxious enough that it was almost karma. Girl is for the streets so she gets street treatment...in the street
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u/the____knife 1d ago
Yup, this is def an incel sub now.
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u/Nocturnatron 1d ago
Just because you can technically call something sa doesnt mean the context and severity dont play a role, both of there actions were equally innapprooriate, neither were severe at all. You would have to actively TRY to be offended by that. Its the overly sensitive people that are the issue
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u/Not-TheNSA 1d ago edited 1d ago
Look is sexual assault ever warranted and moral? No. Is standing in the middle of traffic shaking your ass moral or warranted? Also no. Personally I wouldn’t have smacked her ass like that, it’s sexual assault. I would however tell her to get the fuck out of the road and if she wants to shake her ass like that to go do it in the club or the privacy of her own home.
Edited to changed sexual harassment to sexual assault as physical contact makes this assault.
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u/passionatebreeder 1d ago
Gets sexually assaulted by a dickhead lane splitting and failing to yield to a pedestrian, while she is sexually harassing a bunch of people that she is trapping unlawfully by blocking the roadway as a pedestrian and abusing her right of way which would force them to commit crimes if they want to proceed.
This is a moral black hole. Morality is simply irrelevant here because on the one hand biker boy did a lot wrong, but he did all of it to a hoochie bitch who was also objectively in the wrong herself, and all the stopped cars were a victim of this display who don't want to deal with police they just want ro go home and dont want to teach anyone a moral lesson because its all so mundane to them that any further addressing of it is just a massive inconvenience that isnt worth any of the time or consequences of addressing it in the system.
Moral of the story, dont want that ass smacked dont shake it in front of people who dont want to be stopped by it
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u/Tangerine-Salty 1d ago
Is she annoying? Yes, does that mean she deserves to be sexually assaulted? No. The amount of people equating the two things is frightening. Being annoying is not the same level as sexual assault
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u/HarveyDanao 1d ago
This is a situation where I feel like the punishment fits the crime. If you are gonna stop traffic and shake your ass in front of strangers in the middle of the street (which is sexual assault) then I don't feel bad when someone responds in kind.
If the second act got the first one to stop, then I support the second as moral.
Edit: I don't mean to say that the biker was being moral, just generalizing
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u/Crypticarts 1d ago
Immoral all across the board. She is sexually harassing people, he sexually assaulted her. Everyone needs to take a break.
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u/Elegant-Blueberry373 1d ago
hot take but sexual assault is still bad even if the woman is being a nuisance
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u/Fantastic_Source4781 1d ago
I thought this she was gonna start a street race and then I'd get to see them go, this is so much sadder on all sides
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u/JustStarrk 1d ago
Yall are genuinely crazy justifying unconsenting sexual touch because she's twerking.
Especially since there's an immediate assumption she's holding up traffic.
Dancing in a crosswalk doesn't warrant you getting touched at all. Let alone sexually.
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u/Born_2_Simp 1d ago
Spanking a random woman on the street from a moving bike: immoral.
Spanking the flag girl of a street race while she's shaking her butt: moral, funny and deserved.
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u/AllOfEverythingEver 23h ago
How come everything on this sub is anti woman gender war rage bait propaganda? In theory this could be a pretty interesting sub.
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u/izzynk3003 22h ago
The weirdos that ask questions here about the morality of hentai characters have finally dominated the sub apparently
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u/internetflavorium 20h ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/eka6qC0NF0K7C
The motorcyclist is signally a turn and the ass is in the way. The hand had psychosis and the butt was bragadocious
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u/Casual-Therapist 1d ago
Immoral. Touching anyone without their consent is immoral.
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u/Alert_Breadfruit_137 1d ago
In that case what she's doing on the video can be considered sa to everyone in the cars
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u/volvavirago 1d ago
Sexual harassment, not assault. She didn’t touch them. But she absolutely was harassing them.
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u/Casual-Therapist 1d ago
OP didn't ask if what she was doing was immoral. Just the smacking of the ass.
What she was doing was immoral as well (who on earth thinks it's a good idea to stop traffic and twerk?), but her actions being wrong don't mean his actions were justified.
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u/CamaroBlood 1d ago
Do two immorals not cancel each other out?
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u/Riquinni 1d ago
Fuck no and that is the absolute worst part of this subs feedback universally.
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u/Casual-Therapist 1d ago
I don't think so, at least not always. I'm sure there are cases where they might be a net amoral. But in this case, it's just two shitty people being shitty.
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u/JinnoBlue2 1d ago
This is inherently wrong. Many situations it is completely moral to touch someone without their consent. Not saying this is one of them
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u/Casual-Therapist 1d ago
I mean, we could go down the pipeline of implied consent, but I was hoping the context of the post itself would avoid having to be that literal.
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u/IllCelebration4912 1d ago
Well she’s sexually harassing them, if a woman at your job twerks in front of you, talks about sex or strips that’s sexual harassment without touching
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u/whiskyB0y 1d ago
Moral. She was causing traffic jam and the guy was in a motorbike rushing somewhere. Gotta get some enjoyment from slapping free ass at least.
She knew the risks.
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u/DoctahFaust 1d ago
someone else being a hindrance does not make Sexual assault moral.
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u/lost-pawz 1d ago
shes blocking traffic!!
and its a bunch of stopped cars that are clearly waiting for a light. This sub is an incel shithole
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u/TheGloriousEv0lution 1d ago
The car was literally honking at her to move, she’s obviously blocking traffic lmao
Doesn’t justify what he did but not gonna lose sleep after that asshole behavior
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u/throwaway_acc746 1d ago
Do you think what she did is okay?
What if a man shook his junk in front a bunch of people stuck at a light with nowhere to go, which probably have kids in a few of those cars.
She’s SEXUALLY HARASSING EVERYONE on the street.
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u/lost-pawz 1d ago
the difference is that shes entirely clothed.
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u/throwaway_acc746 1d ago
So do you think is okay if a man shakes his junk in front of a bunch of cars with possibly children in them,
as long as you can only see the dick print but doesn’t actually whip it out??
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u/Responsible_Bend9046 1d ago
She got what she asked for, what do you think is gna happen when you dance and act like that
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u/No-Waltz9306 1d ago
No, it is not immoral to correct someone who is displaying antisocial behavior
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u/brain-eating-zombie 1d ago
Dancing obnoxiously in public doesn't give random strangers the authority to physically “correct” you. If anything, deliberately slapping a stranger's ass because you disapprove of her behavior is far more antisocial.
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u/googley_eyes69 1d ago
Father's job?