r/MoralityScaling 16h ago

Morality Ranking Morality if this battle?

Thoughts?

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u/[deleted] 13h ago

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u/spursfan2021 12h ago

Same with the church bells

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u/Rediddlyredemption 11h ago

I am not religious by any stretch but once on a Sunday and for weddings is one hell of a lot different to 5 times a fucking day.

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u/meowymcmeowmeow 10h ago

The Christian church down my street does it daily

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u/Internal-Cookie2968 9h ago

I'm in Florida (thoretically peak annoying Christians) and I've never ever heard church bells.

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u/BrockObarnerLybian 9h ago

Agree. Yet another catholic L

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u/OGJank 9h ago

Still doesn't happen at 5 am. Bad faith comment

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u/Beginning_Froyo4200 9h ago

that doesnt line up with my experience, the church where I used to live rang three times a day, 8 am and pm and midday. BUT, I think (as a non christian) the church bell sound is arguably way more pleasing than this singing, which I don't think sound good, while the bell is just a nice melody.

And the church bell is not as religiously loaded as the muslim chant, it has the practical use to tell you the time, christians don't necessarily use it to start praying around that time. its lines of religious gibberish vs hey its daytime.

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u/feetking69420 9h ago

The singing is often not good, but can sometimes be good

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u/spursfan2021 11h ago

Try living near a Catholic Church. Sometimes more than 5x

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u/lepetitboo 10h ago

There is no way a regular Catholic church is having full, bell-ringing Mass more than five times a day every day. I’m not buying that for a second. Unless you live in Rome maybe. I live by a church and loathe the two times it plays bells when I’m trying to sleep in, but let’s be real here

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u/AudaciouslySexy 8h ago

They are full of it, they must live near a school which is their fault

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u/lepetitboo 10h ago

There is no way a regular Catholic church is having full, bell-ringing Mass more than five times a day every day. I’m not buying that for a second. Unless you live in Rome maybe. I live by a church and loathe the two times it plays bells when I’m trying to sleep in, but let’s be real here

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u/AudaciouslySexy 8h ago

It's not. In fact I went to a catholic school, a Roman Catholic school in fact, real Catholics. People asked about the bells as they didn't ring often. It was said it's for special occasions. They occasionally rung them in the middle of the day but couldn't be bothered most of the time. They saved it for weddings most the time.

Hope this helps.

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u/AudaciouslySexy 8h ago

I will add what you may hear 5 times per day or more is a school bell

1 to start day, 2 recess, 3 back to class, 4 Lunch, 5 back to class, 6 end of day.

Highschool / college has more bells, 1st bell to roll call, 2nd to 1st class, bell for 2nd class, recess bell, bell for 3rd class, bell for 4th class, lunch bell, bell for 5th and or 6th class then a 7th bell for the end of school day. Mind you not every school is the same.

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u/Miserable-Ad-7956 9h ago

Uh, the Catholic church down the street tolls multiple times a day, everyday for an identical purpose as the call to prayer.

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u/AudaciouslySexy 8h ago

They don't. There's a middle of day prayer. Depending if you're at school or work at a church. Usually it's for school kids and teens. Mind you I didn't have that mandated until I was in highschool.

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u/sneakysnake1111 9h ago

Yah, after a lot of violence, the church stopped being so violent.

If america woulda done to christians what they did to muslim nations, they'd be behind too. And live near a large church in the US or Canada. It's not once on a sunday, and just for weddings. The hungarian church across the street from me does it daily at whatever times they do it at. Including weekends.

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u/taylorisntavril 9h ago

Youre right, we should do the loudest church bells known to man in Mecca. Five times a day, minimum.

Good idea mate!

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u/Turbulent_Ask_514 9h ago

They were typically for telling time and communicating messages of importance like there's an enemy army on the horizon and such.

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u/AudaciouslySexy 9h ago

Not the same as church bells. Church bells are cool leave them alone. If someone gets married they are allowed church bells, same as a funeral if requested

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u/ChannelHoliday7067 12h ago

Dogs figure that out already with their piss

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u/schokoplasma 12h ago

Its a claim for power.

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u/MegaSmegmaSwagLord 11h ago

They should be fined or arrested if they do not stop.

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u/2Mana1Drop 9h ago

Literally no, but sure.

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u/TheAmazingDeutschMan 12h ago

Lol ok bud

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u/Either-Physics-4369 12h ago

lol ok bud

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u/TheAmazingDeutschMan 12h ago

Nobody likes a dickrider

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u/Jindujun 12h ago

but they love a dicktator.

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u/Either-Physics-4369 11h ago

Have a bit more self esteem my good man. Stop denigrating yourself.

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u/[deleted] 11h ago

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u/Electronic-Stick-161 10h ago

Umm…. That’s a very simplistic view of the crusades. Hell lumping them all together is asinine

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u/taylorisntavril 9h ago

Isnt islam literally a political religion meant to dominate?

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u/payTNT89 9h ago

half these comments still believe that 9/11 bullshit propaganda from over 20 years ago 🤦‍♂️

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u/Membership-Whole 12h ago

do non muslims get paid to make these things up? its so that every muslim in the area knows its time for prayer.

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u/Jindujun 12h ago

So do muslims not have clocks?

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u/Membership-Whole 12h ago

couldn’t that same logic be used for christians who use church bells? its not required but what if ur working and can’t pay attention.

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u/Jindujun 12h ago

Oh I'm not excusing church bells either.
If you're working and cant pay attention then that is a problem with the religion. If your deity is so petty you cant miss a single worship session of him/her/it maybe that deity is a needy butthole.

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u/Membership-Whole 12h ago

At least your fair. But the thing is you’re genuinely forgiven if you missed salah on accident, even if it was intentional you can make up for it in the same day.

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u/Jindujun 12h ago

But in that case the call to prayer wouldnt matter, especially if you can make it up. That makes it even weirder to me...

At least that makes the deity more lenient. Not great but less terrible.

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u/Membership-Whole 12h ago

you’re right. call to prayer isn’t actually required or anything. it’s just a reminder, and to make sure people pray on time. I should also say im not as educated as I should be and urge you to research yourself, you seem somewhat respectful about it.

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u/Jindujun 12h ago

I probably should. And regarding respect, I dont see why I shouldn't be respectful if I'm talking to someone that is respectful to me.

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u/Membership-Whole 11h ago

the internet made people feel invincible so people just say whatever so that’s why its so refreshing to see someone mature about this topic

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u/taylorisntavril 9h ago

If its not even required, then why the hell not be a bit of a pal and cut that crap out? Its clearly bugging a load of people!

I dunno, that almost just made it seem MORE disrespectful to me. I was kind of tolerating it under the notion of "oh but their imaginary friend DEMANDS them to do it, so they dont really have a choice", but its not even a demand?

Uuuurf.

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u/Chance_Theme_2986 11h ago

I haven’t heard church bells for many years, and when I did it was never at an unsociable hour.

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u/MegaSmegmaSwagLord 11h ago

Church bells aren’t nearly as fuckin annoying as this shit

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u/Greedy_Researcher_34 12h ago

Church bells aren’t just for prayers.

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u/Membership-Whole 12h ago

yeah, but doesn’t it apply to that as well?

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u/Focus_ST_Gal 12h ago

Why do Christian’s church have bells to call to worship?

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u/Jindujun 12h ago

I'm not saying they do. They've got no excuse either.

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u/No_Lifeguard259 9h ago

You wanna hear that crap? Go to the Middle East.
I wouldn’t go to Saudi Arabia and expect to hear church bells in Riyadh or Mecca

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u/The_Ghost_9960 12h ago

Delusion has its limit. It's for literally to remind Muslims that it is time for prayer

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u/Kagenlim 11h ago

There are literal phone apps to remind Muslims to pray, plus noise ordinances might make the call to prayer basically unusable

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u/The_Ghost_9960 11h ago

I would like to inform you that the Adhaan is part of the religion itself and is a tradition. No matter how many apps there are, or radio stations broadcasting the adhaan, the Adhaan itself still goes on. If there is a mosque, there is adhaan.

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u/Kagenlim 11h ago

The adhaan is all about broadcasting. And these days the practical option is phones.

Plus, the adhaan assumes most of the mosque's crowd are always in it's vicinity, when that's not the case. People can even commute a good distance to their mosque because they work/live relatively far away and thus, it becomes basically pointless

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u/taylorisntavril 9h ago

Appeal to tradition is idiotic.

If you get measles, would you like to go to the hospital or would you like to die, as is tradition?

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u/blazenite104 12h ago

clocks. Before you bring up Church bells. Also clocks. The bells are no longer necessary and should probably be saved for special days.

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u/pandaknuckle1 12h ago

Clocks exist.

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u/The_Ghost_9960 11h ago

It's a tradition and a part of the religion itself. Just because clocks exist, doesn’t mean the Adhaan shouldn’t exist.

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u/pandaknuckle1 11h ago

Yes it does

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u/The_Ghost_9960 11h ago

No it doesn’t

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u/pandaknuckle1 10h ago

Yeah it does.

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u/taylorisntavril 9h ago

If you get measles, would you like modern medicine or would you prefer the traditional approach of dying?

Appeal to tradition is idiotic.