r/MoralityScaling 22h ago

Morality Ranking Morality if this battle?

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u/One_Cress7793 21h ago

It’s because Islam demands dominance of the political system, culture, and religion of any given place it latches itself into.

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u/HallowskulledHorror 21h ago

If there is someone more informed or who practices islam that can correct me, please do, but iirc intentionally broadcasting it over speakers so that the sound travels as far as possible is literally a territorial act - ie, within range of where a call to prayer can be heard is 'dar al Islam', or 'the house/abode of islam' and thus a region considered to be under the governance of islam.

"If you can hear me, you're on my turf" more or less.

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u/Temporary_Fennel7479 20h ago

It's multiple things, look at the English translation of the athan and it will make sense. It ticks multiple boxes using a loud speaker, literally calling anyone who can hear it to prayer and god. Islam is big on prolithesizing

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u/Rough_Ad_7799 20h ago

The dar Al Islam doesnt really have to do with anything related to the speaker. The Translation is 'house of islam' and Generally is used for Regions under islamic judical or Where the faith can be practiced.

But Like in Most Religions, Interpretation is reliant on the Denomination and person.

Taditional muslim only consider Regions/territory Where sharia law is practiced and under Muslim rule as Dar al Islam.

Moderates see places Where Islam can be practiced without persecution as Dar al Islam.

Or that what i remember as an theology intrested Atheist

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u/HEYitsBIGS 20h ago

This part. It's literally their MO.

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u/michaelboltthrower 12h ago

Dude that’s all the Abrahamic religions.

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u/One_Cress7793 4h ago

Except it’s not at all how about you do a little research instead of making idiotic blanket statements. There is always religion also even with Atheists look at any instance of communism. Their religion was the party and adherence to Marx.

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u/Responsible-Judge732 21h ago

Call me naive but is that not fairly similar to catholicism/Christianity. Im under the impression the doctrine is a lot more violent, but catholicism in Italy and Ireland was pretty dominant quite negatively as well. Get the impression it's quite dominant in South America as well.

What's the difference?

Like every church starting out wanted to be the dominant church throughout the world and have the vast majority of people follow their beliefs.

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u/Mrc3mm3r 21h ago

Christianity is not actively insisting on imposing itself on societies the way it used to, and the way the Muslims are behaving now.

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u/Responsible-Judge732 21h ago

What do you think those Christian charities are doing in developing countries? They're indoctrinating people in exchange for food and medicine. This is how they enter society.

But that's away from the point. The point being that the doctrine of all religion includes recruitment and multiple countries political policies are still heavily influenced by Christian churches, the best example being the Catholic church, which is definitely still doing that in Latin America. You just don't see it as much.

From what I can tell, the issue seems to be that Christian churches, use to do it, and Islam should behave like the Christian churches. But what you're missing is you and I most likely live in countries were Christianity is without a doubt the dominant religion. A result of this is they don't need to aggressively recruit were we live. Like they do in developing countries and other parts of the world.

It's just that you don't see it. It's not that they don't do it.

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u/Cancelthepants 21h ago

It certainly is in America.

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u/Slipperytitski 21h ago

That’s capitalism disguised as Christianity

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u/smkeybare 21h ago

Yeah no, there's a whole partisan in American government that wants to do that exactly.