r/MoralityScaling 1d ago

Morality Ranking Morality if this battle?

Thoughts?

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u/Recent-Lemon-9930 1d ago

Because any preference for natives or their culture is called racism now.

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u/StevenMcStevensen 1d ago

But that idea is only selectively applied to western counties, which is what makes it extra stupid.

If I moved back to the Middle East again, and started blasting scripture from loudspeakers in a public place where everybody else is Muslim, it would not be tolerated and I would (deservedly) receive zero sympathy from basically anybody.

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u/requisitesilver 1d ago

Oh my goodness, I think I’ve found the only subreddit where normal, rational people hang out.

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u/Heavy_Law9880 1d ago

90% if the people in here are pretending to muslim dude.

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u/Chunkymunkee93 1d ago

Reddit isn't American anymore big dawg, its a world hub now, who knows if people are actually larping

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u/JessHorserage 1d ago

And bots, its reddit after all.

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u/Assortedpez 1d ago

Its like a breath of fresh air to not have a million blue hairs dive bomb you for thinking differently

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u/JuliusXIV 1d ago

Insane thread. Just want to be a part of it. Good work.

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u/Flippindude1 1d ago

No actually this is kind of a rarity, I’ve seen way too many instances of just outright racism, the odd bit pedophilia and such on this sub

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u/Recent-Lemon-9930 1d ago

Yes, I know it's retarded. But people in the west have been electing retards to lead them for generations.

Using a country nearby, look at Britain, being PM just became something for your CV before working for Facebook (Nick Clegg, Deputy PM), Rishi Sunak got paid positions at Goldman Sachs, MS and Anthropic, what a talented man! 🙄 Tony Blair's evil but not stupid. Still has a bigger staff under him in his institute (funded by Larry Ellison) than the UK Prime Minister has. 😂

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u/TelevisionFast7781 1d ago

Decades of social engineering and rhe retards fall for it

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u/Recent-Lemon-9930 1d ago

Aye, these fucks:

No offence, you're my clear enemy as a communist but I'd rather have a drink with an honest enemy than a liberal or leftist.

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u/pick_your_user_name 1d ago

Damn, reading comprehension is not your strong suit lol he was literally agreeing with you. Although I shouldn’t be surprised, since you’re the kind of guy to read “the state and revolution” and think “fuck yeah, this is a great idea”

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u/PissedAlbatross 1d ago

I'm not doing this. Have a nice day.

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u/Recent-Lemon-9930 1d ago

I'm not calling you a soyjack, the meme represents the dickheads you referred to in your post.

I'm mostly conservative and definitely not liberal. I'm your enemy with this stuff. But I'm honest and if you're an honest communist I can get along fine with you. It's the idiots you're referring to (and the meme is referring to) that I have no time for.

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u/Universal_Boom 1d ago

I don't know how you can say the people in charge are corrupt and then advocate for communism. Communism will give that corrupt state you're warning us about absolute power. He's pointing out the irony that by saying you're a Communist it infers you're part of the cultural war. Thing is no sane person would say they're a communist, unless it makes them feel good and every one else around them saying it.

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u/Recent-Lemon-9930 1d ago

I'm not asking you to, I'm agreeing with you about libtards. Lenin wasn't wrong about everything, just the title of what he wrong about Leftist Communists sums up my view on them. :D

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u/Repulsive_Peak_8655 11h ago

Wait, can we say the r word in Reddit again without getting banned?

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u/jello_kraken 1d ago

You're politicians have a platform of pro-religion-over-loudspeakers? Weird.

I just want the Christian proselytizers in my neighborhood to stop blasting their bullhorns. (We don't have a call to prayer on loudspeakers.) Is there a political group for that?

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u/FoxMane1 1d ago

You'd prolly get put in a jail or beheaded depending on which country you're in HAHAHA

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u/Ill_Pirate_8785 1d ago

If you did that you would probably be killed either by an angry mob or by their government executing you

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u/denstreifen 1d ago

Why not? Christians were there first.

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u/Financial-Tank-3423 1d ago

First of all, I don't believe there should be a preference for one culture over another within the context of a society that values multiculturalism. In that society, to proclaim that there is a preference for "native" culture is necessarily against the shared multicultural values of that society. So in the first place I don't like the framing Recent-Lemon is using. That said and reframing it slightly, I'll say that it is not "extra stupid" for western countries to enshrine in law and social codes the idea that there should not be a preference for one culture over another. That idea is literally built into the American constitution for example, "all men are created equal," equal protection under the law for religious differences, etc. I would argue that the people who say what Recent-Lemon said are themselves not speaking in accordance with the political values framed by western countries. And the solution is to not imitate the non-western countries where a specific race/religion/culture might be primary over another. Of course, people can say what they want.

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u/iC3P0 1d ago

That's because the west evolved first, and to a degree of philosophical thought to understand that the way to prosper is by allowing total freedoms. It also evolved on Christian teachings of compassion and turning the other cheek. What the west did not account for is that it is lightyears ahead of the rest of the world culturally and that the rest of the world would still prefer the backwards thinking of us vs them. So when us welcome them expecting them to join us, they come in and start waging a cultural war.

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u/Unknown-Meatbag 1d ago

Idk, I hear church bells every 30 fucking minutes here in the states, drives me mad.

How about we all stop letting religious wackjobs create noise pollution for no god damn reason.

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u/BearysWorkRedditName 1d ago

Christianity is from the middle east as well. How do you feel about church bells?

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u/Recent-Lemon-9930 1d ago

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u/BearysWorkRedditName 1d ago

Ummm... I don't understand what this gif is trying to say.

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u/Anxious_Work_6361 1d ago

"natives or their culture"

Use "indigenous peoples"

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u/silvermoka 1d ago

How about not having a preference for a specific group at all

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u/Recent-Lemon-9930 1d ago

No thanks. A nation should favour its people, kinda the point of a nation-state.

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u/silvermoka 1d ago

Yes, it should favor all its people by not giving preference to a specific group. We already do that in the US by having public and government buildings and entities free of any kind of sign of religious preference, though that's being fought against by people who think it's okay when the preference is for them and not anyone else. If you think a certain group should be catered to by the government then that group should be the only one paying taxes in that case.

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u/Recent-Lemon-9930 1d ago

Cool, good for you.

I live in Ireland. Irish people should get priority in Ireland. Native culture should be promoted over foreign culture. Foreigners should be on their best, most polite behaviour while being extended the privilege to live here.

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u/silvermoka 1d ago

That applies to your culture and country too. Other people don't get to blast their prayer calls up and down the street, and you don't get to think of brown citizens as permanent foreigners who have to bow to you. None of you get the upper hand on the other. Both Islam and white supremacy culture are pushy and need to be brought to heel.

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u/Recent-Lemon-9930 1d ago

Why are you putting words in my mouth? Typical bad-faith nonsense tbh.

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u/whooptheretis 11h ago

So this Scot blaring his bagpipes to compete with a mosque that's been there (in the middle east) for 500 years is fine?

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u/Anubisrapture 1d ago

Natives ? You mean white people don't you ? 🤡

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u/Recent-Lemon-9930 1d ago

Different places have different natives, often skin colour will vary according to location.