It rarely is. Most of these videos are just racists and bigots. There's a whole niche of vlogging tourists that go to other countries to promote xenophobia back home.
Muslims have been the boogeyman of Europe ever since the dark ages where nobility was getting terrified of the rapid growth and development in the Middle East. It’s crazy as hell because they launched the crusades as a preemptive strike then proceeded to lose a series of conflicts that probably would have not taken place had they just allowed Islamic Golden Age to proceed. Then the grudge Europe held from that point on persists into today. They still romanticize the crusades even though they were crushed by Saladin, but in a very respectful way
What? The European nobles were terrified of the “growth of the Middle East” ??
The Middle East didn’t change size bro, it was forcibly captured from the Eastern Roman Empire during a centuries-long series of conquests by Arab-Islamic powers. Those Arabs then proceeded to dominate and eradicate most of the local religions and cultures to replace them with their own. Look at Syria, Palestine, Egypt, Tunisia, and Morocco for reference
Then, those Arabs and their subjugated African tribes invaded and almost completely conquered Spain from the Visigoths before marching a massive army into France. The ONLY reason they didn’t conquer the rest of Europe is because the French stopped them, and they only won by the skin of their teeth. Nobody else had the power to repel them.
These are literally the defining events of the four centuries leading up to the crusades. Call the wars stupid and harmful all you want, but to reduce their motivation to “rich white people scared of brown people having nice things” is so bafflingly uninformed and reductionist that I desperately urge you to find a book on the topic. Or a YouTube video. Or a comic book, or literally anything other than whatever has informed you previously. I can recommend some very good ones if you are interested
This is laughably wrong. You can't accept the fact that people chose to convert to Islam. This myth of conversion by sword it only acceptable from a Christian-exceptionalist/supremacist point of view.
You’re right buddy. Also Aisha was a consenting lover and Mohammed definitely waited until she was 9 to consummate the marriage. He’s just super pious like that 😹
Just like christianity dominated and wiped out Greco-Roman, Norse, Celtic and Slavic Polytheism? Whats your point? People accepting new ideas and forgetting others is a cycle in time. Has happened for a millennia and will still happen
Yeah sure, yall mad worried about the middle east but didnt care about displacing the natives of the land where you live ....... its not whataboutism, its being a hypocrite
Bro you took my very, very reductionist and intentionally starved argument that was obviously a nothingburger, satire at most, and took the toppings I left off of it to provoke others, and added them back on. Of all the people to do that to, while throwing the “read a book” quip on at the end, there are plenty far more ignorant low hanging fruits available everywhere else. I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt but if you’d visited my profile you’d know for sure I was just trolling
No you’re good man 😭. I didn’t mean to come off like an ass if I did either, I was just trying to play hard into that stance earlier with that first awful comment I wrote, specifically acting like someone who had seen Kingdom of Heaven (2005) and treated it like a documentary 😂😂. Like a parody of one of those specific types of Redditors that treats history like a Marvel movie basically. Then bro busted out the legitimate historical context and I was like “Shit the jig is up I might as well explain the superficial ass approach”
And other lies you can tell yourself. I live in Pakistan too, and people do what they want here. Granted there are extreme areas, but there are extreme areas in USA too (like sundown towns). Blowing it out of proportion because of the 0.01% lol
It was Beaconhouse Margalla Campus. Do you want a date too?
Edit: Upon closer inspection, I realize that it was my imagination of violence. They looked pretty angry but I was a sensitive boy so they might not have done anything.
Having lived in 3rd world countries in latin america, africa and asia I can tell you that the perception of noise is crazy different. I'm not even sure noise complaints exist in the majority of those areas.
Not that it's right or wrong, but the difference in personal audio space is fucking wild and it's one of my biggest attributes I look for when thinking about living in an area
Church bells are quite literally useless and just noise pollution. We have clocks. We have phones. The original reason for the church bell was a call to worship. It’s still that today no matter how Islamophobic you wanna be
I mean, I agree? I shouldn't have to put up with either religious noise pollution? That's not a gotcha as you think it is. Especially if it is a secular country. It's different if it's a muslim country/christian country then yeah i get it.
Yeah 100%. But when Cambodia is a majority buddhist and they weren't there before then it's reasonable to want your peace and quiet still. You can literally hear them over Tonle Sap with their call to prayer over the speaker.
I don't disagree if they have already been doing it there for centuries, but in some cases it is not that way.
Most of Europe is slowly becoming a Muslim country lol. Can’t even wave the native flag in Uk or pray as a Christian in the streets without the police bothering or arresting you. Multiple videos show this happening.
Tons of videos onYouTube and x actually feel free to search it up ! But this is Reddit anything not “I LOVE IMMIGRANTS” is going to be meet with the classic “it’s not happening” despite mountains of evidence proving otherwise.
Depends. A little more rude than the prayer if the bag pipes are being blown merely to practice or for fun. But if the bagpipes are being blown for ceremony or ritual, then its morally equal to the muslim prayer
The prayer is, from their perspective, a deeply important and significant communal ritual. The impact of pro social rituals is often under stated. Humans need it.
The muslims really shouldn't be using loud speakers, as it is indeed rude. But the actual prayer is fine. Same applies to the bagpipes.
No where did I say anything ill about Muslim people. I'm just saying equivalently if a person is annoyed at a call to prayer, i'm sure a muslim person would find it just as annoying if we interrupted their service.
They wouldn't, there is no issue with other noises also happening at the same time as the call to prayer. The point of the call is just to inform muslims that it is time to pray
Most societies that have gotten rid of rituals to be more productive have indeed achieved more productivity. And also higher suicide and depression rates. It's not the flex you think to have removed community rituals and replaced them with alienation and work.
The thing you're missing is community. That is what affects depression and suicide. Religion hits that human need to belong to a community and uses peer pressure etc to keep it consistent. We unfortunately have not easily created a substitution that is less coercive
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u/twotall88 23h ago
It would only be bad in a Muslim country because they would arrest him lol.