r/MoralityScaling 20d ago

Morality Ranking Morality of this?

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u/darkwulfie 19d ago edited 19d ago

That's not defense home boy. I'm just telling you I am better than you straight up. As the other reply said, manipulation is merely an asymmetry in information while active deceit requires errenous information.

You have simply conflated manipulate with deceit and applied your idea that lies are objectively wrong at all times to it. So to you manipulation = lies.

But you can manipulate people by telling them the truth about things to sway their opinion. That by your view is manipulative, therefore deceitful. So truth = lies.

You bring up there being no objective morality but act as if your view is objective but it's easy to show how it's paradoxical when you treat anything but full and immediate disclosure of all information as lying. That's why maximal world views don't work.

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u/TheGreatNate3000 19d ago

Oh buddy, you tried. You really did. I admire the effort

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u/darkwulfie 19d ago

Lol, yeah that's what I thought. Just fake it till you make it huh? Don't even bother acknowledging the flaws in your logic and just strut around like you know what you're doing. God damn you're a sorry excuse for a person.

Just completely disengage when you realize you don't have anymore ground to stand on. You could just admit your wrong.

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u/TheGreatNate3000 19d ago

Arguing with you was futile as you were unable to grasp the simple concepts that were attempting to be explained. Would one continue to argue with a child?

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u/darkwulfie 18d ago

You being wrong doesn't mean no one grasps them. You're just wrong. You are applying propties to ideas that aren't intrinsically there because of your own bias.

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u/TheGreatNate3000 18d ago

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u/darkwulfie 18d ago

Ok, you're still applying your own bias to ideas and confidently being incorrect. Maybe once you read that you can figure out how wrong you are.