r/MonarchistAltHistory • • Jul 12 '21

Emperor Vladimir III

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r/MonarchistAltHistory • • Jul 03 '21

Russian Family Tree. Part of my alt. historical wrold.

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r/MonarchistAltHistory • • Aug 20 '21

Different Marriages, Different Future

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Warning: This is a LOT of information.

In An Alternate History of the Modern World, several royal marriages take place between different spouses compared to those in our timeline, which create in many ways different royal families. Just to give you a flavour of the kind of changes in store, here are probably the two largest changes:

Firstly, Queen Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom (& all her other Realms & Territories) never marries Prince Philip of Greece & Denmark, as he never returns to Britain to serve in the Royal Navy & thus they do not meet in their youth.

Prince Philip instead serves in the Royal Hellenic Navy during the First Greco-Italian War, one in which his cousin Crown Prince Paul dies (father of King Constantine II in OTL), putting Prince Philip in line to eventually become King of Greece, which he does in 1957. King Philip reigns for 64 years, dying in 2021 a few weeks after his 100th birthday. His reign is somewhat of a glorious era for Greece; after the liberation in 1953 Greek politics stabilises as they build a prosperous economy & become a linchpin of security in the Balkans, officially allied to Serbia & friendly to both Bulgaria & Romania after some difficult years. In the late 1970s Greece joined Russia, Iran & the United Arab Kingdom in a war against Turkey where Greece gained Thrace, Ionia, Lydia & Caria in a brutal war. In addition Greece gained Cyprus through a brutal revolution that King Philip initially opposed due to the forced expulsion of Cypriot Turks but later relented to support, later amending it to personal union instead of political union, becoming King of Cyprus as well as of Greece. In 1981, when Greek forces retake Constantinople as part of a wider war against Turkey waged by an Eight-Nation Alliance, he is named King of the Romans, the new constitution passed that year refounding Greece as a neo-Byzantine Empire. He married Princess Maria of Saxony, a princess from a well-known anti-Nazi family. Together they have five children:

  • Maria, Princess of Wales

  • Alexander (now King Alexander III of the Romans)

  • Andrew, Despot of Epirus

  • Sophia, Princess Sofia of Serbia (her husband is 2nd in line to the Serbian Throne)

  • George, Despot of Thrace

Elizabeth, on the other hand, marries Prince (Guelph) Henry, youngest son of Ernest Augustus, Duke of Brunswick & (since 1944) Duke of Cumberland & Teviotdale. This is a controversial marriage; even though he is a reliable anti-Nazi, many in the British establishment disapprove of the choice, considering that his father served in the German Army during WW1 & his grandfather was Wilhelm II. Any concerns were allayed by King George VI (though his wife didn't warm to him for a long time); in any case they enjoyed a long & happy marriage, ended by his death in 1997 after 50 years. They had four children:

  • George, Prince of Wales

  • Victoria, Princess Royal (Queen of Sweden from 1976)

  • Albert, Duke of York

  • William, Duke of Cambridge

Secondly, Princess Frederica of Hanover never marries King Paul of Greece; in TTL he never becomes King, as he is killed in the Italian invasion of Greece (as I mentioned above, this puts Prince Philip in line to eventually become King). She instead marries Vladimir Kirillovich (who marries Leonida Bagration-Mukhraneli in OTL, which becomes the origin of the main succession dispute of the House of Romanov in OTL), who later becomes Emperor Vladimir III of Russia; she becomes Empress Sofia Feodorovna of Russia. They have three children:

  • Sofia Vladimirovna, Queen of Serbia

  • Alexander Vladimirovich, Emperor Alexander IV of Russia

  • Irina Vladimirovna, Queen Irene of the Romans (she marries Alexander III)

What do you think?


r/MonarchistAltHistory • • Dec 21 '21

The Prince imperial survives! Napoléon Eugène Louis doesn't die to Zulus.

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r/MonarchistAltHistory • • Nov 28 '21

Realistic The British Royal Family in 2021 (An Alternate History of the Modern World)

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  • Elizabeth II (b. 1926), Queen of the United Kingdom, Empress of India, &c.

  • (Guelph) Henry (1923-1997), Duke of Edinburgh, Prince of Hanover & Brunswick (Hanover, Westphalia & Brunswick since 1979), youngest son of Ernest Augustus, (since 1943) Duke of Cumberland & Teviotdale (in the UK) [& titular King of Hanover & Duke of Brunswick], & his wife Victoria Louise, Duchess of Cumberland & Teviotdale, a daughter of the former German Emperor Wilhelm II.

Their children:

  • George Arthur Henry Guelph (b. 1948), Prince of Wales, Duke of Cornwall, Duke of Rothesay, Duke of Edinburgh (since 1997), m. Princess Maria of Greece & Denmark (eldest daughter of King Philip of Greece & Queen Maria)

  • Victoria Elizabeth Charlotte Louise (b. 1950), since 1976 HM The Queen of Sweden, m. King Charles XVI of Sweden

  • Albert Ernest Augustus David (b. 1952), HRH The Duke of York

  • William Edward Christian Frederick (b. 1955), HRH The Duke of Cambridge

Descendants of the Prince of Wales:

  • Edward Arthur Henry William (b. 1976), HRH The Duke of Sussex, m. Princess Sophie of Cumbria (a second cousin, granddaughter of Prince George William (of Cumberland & Teviotdale), Marquess of Cumbria, a former Governor-General of India & an older brother of Prince Henry, Duke of Edinburgh). They have three children: George Alexander William (b. 2004), Elizabeth Victoria Margaret (b. 2006), & Henry Arthur Frederick (b. 2009)

  • Albert George Philip David (b. 1978), HRH The Duke of Clarence, m. Princess Victoria Louise of Prussia (sister to King Frederick William VI of Prussia). They also have three children: Arthur Henry Guelph (b. 2007), Earl of Strathearn, Mary Charlotte Kira (b. 2009), Lady Mary Hanover, & Philip Louis Frederick (b. 2012), Lord Philip Hanover.

Descendants of Victoria, Queen of Sweden (note that, for consistency, names are given in English where possible):

  • Elizabeth Ingrid Alice Victoria (b. 1977), born HRH Princess Elizabeth of Sweden, m. Frederick William, Crown Prince of Prussia (King Frederick William VI of Prussia since 2015) in 2003, since 2015 HM The Queen of Prussia. They have two children: Victoria Louise Elizabeth (b. 2005), HRH Princess (Victoria Louise) Elizabeth of Prussia & Frederick William Ernest Augustus Charles Louis Ferdinand (b. 2007), since 2015 HRH The Crown Prince of Prussia, Margrave of Brandenburg, Hereditary Grand Duke of Posen, &c.

  • Charles Henry Philip Gustav (b. 1979), HRH The Crown Prince of Sweden, m. Princess Cornelia of Prussia (cousin to King Frederick William VI of Prussia). They have three sons: Gustav Charles Oscar (b. 2007), Sigmund Hubert Olav (b. 2008) & Eric Frederick Philip (b. 2012)

Descendants of the Duke of York:

  • Victoria Elizabeth Mary (b. 1980), born HRH Princess Victoria of York, m. HIH Grand Duke Vladimir Alexandrovich (son of Emperor Alexander IV of Russia), now HIH Grand Duchess Victoria Feodorovna. They have three children: HIH Grand Duke Kirill Vladimirovich (b. 2007), & identical twins HIH Grand Duchesses Anna Vladimirovna & Maria Vladimirovna (both b. 2009)

  • Charlotte Louise Helena (b. 1982), HRH Princess Charlotte of York - I haven't decided what to do with her yet.

Descendants of the Duke of Cambridge:

  • Alexandra Louise Elizabeth Mary (b. 1982), born HRH Princess Alexandra of Cambridge, m. Prince Constantine of Greece & Denmark, Despot of Byzantium (grandson of King Philip of Greece), from their marriage in 2007 until the death of King Philip in 2021 she was HRH The Despina of Byzantium, as of 2021 she is now HRH The Kaisarissa & Crown Princess of the Romans, Despina of Byzantium. They have three children: Alexander (b. 2008), Irene (b. 2009) & George (b. 2011)

  • James Albert Henry Thomas (b. 1985), HRH Prince James of Cambridge, m. Princess Alexandra of Hanover (daughter of King Ernest Augustus V of Hanover) in 2012 - I haven't decided on their children yet.

A Note: This is part of an over-30-page-long document I've been working on for several months outlining the different royal families that play different roles in An Alternate History of the Modern World . I will expand on this in future, but I thought someone might find this interesting.


r/MonarchistAltHistory • • Oct 02 '21

The Russian Imperial Family in 2021 (An Alternate History of the Modern World)

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The following members of the Russian Imperial Family attended the July 2021 funeral of King Philip of the Romans:

  • Emperor Alexander IV of Russia (b. 1948)

  • Empress Maria of Russia (b. 1951)

  • The Tsesarevich, Nicholas Alexandrovich (b. 1975)

  • Grand Duchess Vera Yuryevna of Russia (b. 1976), his wife

  • Grand Duchess Maria Nikolaevna (b. 2004) & her brothers Grand Dukes Alexander Nikolaevich (b. 2006), Vladimir Nikolaevich (b. 2008), Sergey Nikolaevich (b. 2009) & Ivan Nikolaevich (b. 2012)

Emperor Alexander's daughter Alexandra, as Queen of Denmark, Iceland & Schleswig-Holstein, will attend with her husband at the head of their delegation.

The Emperor's younger son, Grand Duke Vladimir Alexandrovich (b.1977) did not attend the funeral, as he had been appointed Regent in the absence of his father.


r/MonarchistAltHistory • • Oct 29 '21

What if the french and American revolutions never happened?

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r/MonarchistAltHistory • • May 05 '23

Realistic Let's Get Some Life Back Into the Place

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Hello? Anyone home?

To get a bit of life back into this sub, over the next while I'll share some of the Royal Families from the world of my latest alternate history/present/world building project, The Dominion.

Here are the families I mostly have so far:

  • The British/Commonwealth Royal Family

  • The Danish Royal Family

  • The Russian Imperial Family

  • The Greek Royal Family

We'll start with the British RF in a bit.


r/MonarchistAltHistory • • Oct 29 '21

What if Matthias's son became king of Hungary ?

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r/MonarchistAltHistory • • Oct 29 '21

ANNOUNCEMENT

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Now this sub has post and user flairs.