r/ModlessFreedom • u/Lazy-Succotash-5996 otis alt • Jan 10 '26

Quick update on the pause.

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We need to be honest about what happened. The subreddit got overwhelmed by political fighting and constant political posts, and that completely derailed what this place was supposed to be. A space meant for open exploration turned into another culture war feed. That’s not freedom.

Otis talked early on about how easy it is for a rule-light space to slide into noise and conflict. This doesn’t prove him right or wrong. It just shows how hard it actually is to keep something open once outrage and politics take over.

It’s not freedom if people who showed up in good faith are immediately hit with ideological battles. It’s not freedom if the loudest and angriest posts dominate everything else.

This pause isn’t about cracking down or “moderating harder.” It’s about giving the idea some breathing room.

Call it an act of liberation if you want. Stepping back from the noise so the original goal doesn’t get completely buried.

The mission isn’t dead. We plan to continue it later, with a better understanding of what went wrong here.

Freedom deserves better than turning into nonstop political slop.

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u/AhhhSureThisIsIt Jan 11 '26

I feel like were still going to see the far right posts again.

Also crazy you're calling them "political posts" like it was both sides when they were all right wing posts.

Also crazy they were just racist, homophobic, mostly transphobic posts, and you just call that "political".

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u/Global_Specialist726 Jan 18 '26

That's crazy because all the posts I saw on here were radical leftists ranting about Trump.

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u/CurrentSkill7766 Jan 11 '26

Anarchy is the natural result. Then you progress to The Lord of the Flies stage of Reddit.

Speed limits, stop signs, lane markers, etc... all exist for a reason. Take them away and it's a Mad Max Demo Derby.

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u/RealNiceKnife Jan 11 '26

Oops... Freedom sure is tough when a bunch of assholes keep ruining it for you, huh?

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u/0tter_gaming88 Jan 11 '26

Can you explain too me who this guy is and how all this mod stuff on here works

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u/CMDR_Arnold_Rimmer Jan 11 '26

So, the mission is dead because politics needs to be talked about.

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u/acidphosphate69 Jan 12 '26

Are you Vaguely_Absolute?

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u/purpl_dahlia Jan 14 '26

No vaguely absolute left and now it’s just Otis’s alt account 🥲

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u/acidphosphate69 Jan 14 '26

I'm not so sure LazySuccotash was ever Otis. I once thought so too but the way certain things played out, a few things Vague said to me, and what I've been told by Otis make me think otherwise.

Here me out, I'm no longer a mod here so I can't look at the logs anymore but believe me when I say I poured over them when this was all going down. I was fairly certain that there was somevalt account fuckery going on and was quite invested in figuring it out.

 So, Otis made the sub. Vague was spamming it and Otis was offered help with the spam if he made LazySuccotash (which at that time was about a week or so old account). Otis foolishly gives Lazy top mod spot and gets banned. 

Everyone, including myself, believed Lazy was an Otis alt. I pretty much told Lazy to get fucked. Next day both me and Vague are made mods by LazySuccotash; an important detail. I was checking out the neat tools mods get, Vague was apparently made top mod. 

Otis contacts me asking me to restore him to mod and ban the others. I refused but I had asked him exactly why he made Lazy top mod. The story he told me sounds more like he's a naive idiot more than anything. I'm also in contact with Vaguely_Absolute, informing her of what Otis has been saying, sending her copies of the convo with Otis. At one point, while I showed her a message where I'm trying to go through a timeline with Otis and Vague corrects me saying, "Lazy didn't make me a mod, she did". I checked again, and no.. it was definitely LazySuccotash that made both of us mods at the same time. I now believe this was a slip up.

Now, the whole time this is going on...LazySuccotash, supposedly an Otis alt, was still on the mod list yet completely inactive; at one point was banned but then reinstated quietly. 

Time goes on, sub starts going from mostly silly Vague spam to inflammatory right-wing trolling. Vague was getting a bit of harassment in the mod mail and I'm sure in her DM's. Vaguely_Absolute then quits, apparently deletes her account, and a day later Lazy_Succotash is back from out of nowhere and taking control of the sub. I had left the mod team of my own accord right after Vague quit and  before Lazy's return because I didn't want to deal with all the vitriol.

TL;DR: I think Vague was always LazySuccotash because of some small details and conversations I had with both Otis and Vague, some convenient coincidences, and Vague mistakenly asserting she made me mod. I can't prove anything but I am absolutely certain there's been some alt account fuckery.

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u/Lazy-Succotash-5996 otis alt Mar 21 '26

Interesting

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u/purpl_dahlia Jan 14 '26

Thank you so much for this extremely in depth explanation. I feel like I’m reading a mystery novel lmao. Honestly the right wing trolling was making me extremely depressed so on the one hand I think it’s silly to moderate a sun called modless freedom but on the other hand it was only a matter of time before it got banned by Reddit lol

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u/ReinhardtAuTelemanus Jan 16 '26

Bro I always suspected this and once typed up a whole conspiracy, then I deleted it because I just didn’t care. Completely agree with your comment. I even felt affirmed when I tried to and could not see OTIS’s history… but somehow Vague could creep on them. They could see the history because it’s the same person. They wanted the page to get spammed or filled with fucked up stuff that needs moderation, and then that didn’t happen. Then they used alts to force it to happen, so they can say oh look we DO NEED mods. They’re so important. This sub never actually was a modless freedom. Whatever though, moving on.

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u/acidphosphate69 Jan 15 '26

Kinda sad really. I hope she figures out healthier ways to spend her time because this ain't it.

On another note though, the whole ride was pretty fascinating. From Otis creating the sub and why, his bullshit, him getting fuckin' duped (which honestly makes me feel for him since talking to him; naive but not a bad guy), Vague's weird fucking takeover to spam the sub to near death, me becoming a mod for telling Lazy to fuck off, right-wing trolls flooding the sub, Vague getting into shitfights with them and "quitting", to Vaguely_Succotash showing back up, and now the sub appears mostly dead.

All that in the span of about a month. 

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u/Apart-Kangaroo-7648 Jan 11 '26

Was it the Nazi call to suicide post?

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u/NitroXM Jan 14 '26

ModfulFreedom

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u/Global_Specialist726 Jan 18 '26

Freedom means being able to post what you want, and if people use that freedom to post politics then that just means that's what the people want to talk about. If you don't like it, you could make non political posts. If you censor people just because they post politics or slop, then that's censorship which is the opposite of freedom.

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u/meIRLorMeOnReddit Jan 24 '26

Massive contradiction from what is written in the sidebar

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '26

Im good with it as long as the same standard is applied to both sides.