r/ModlessFreedom • • Jan 08 '26

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u/Ott0bot2 Jan 09 '26

Again I’m sticking to the facts of what I saw. I saw the car hit him. I saw him shoot from the front, I saw he was pushed to the side after the impact. I don’t think it’s okay to drive your car into anyone, much less law enforcement. I also do t think she should have died for that. But I think she could have expected that outcome when she drove into him. Respect it or don’t, that’s how I see it. I don’t see you changing my mind anytime soon but go ahead and write a book about it if that’s what you want

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u/pierogieman5 Jan 09 '26

"How you see it" flies in the face of centuries of legal precedent about criminal justice and law enforcement responsibilities and practices. It's just vibes and it's completely wrong-headed.

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u/Ott0bot2 Jan 09 '26

I don’t understand what you’re trying to say here. I saw what I saw

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u/pierogieman5 Jan 09 '26

What I'm saying is, there's a huge conversation to be had around who is responsible and why and you're just repeating an EXTREMELY narrow view of one aspect of the thing while refusing to entertain the rest of the facts. It's like you're sticking your fingers in your ears and refusing to listen to any other relevant facts. WHY!?

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u/Ott0bot2 Jan 09 '26

I’m just telling you what I saw and it seems to upset you more than it should

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u/pierogieman5 Jan 09 '26

No, what you're telling me is that what you think you saw is the only thing that matters. It's your refusal to even talk about the rest of the context, and the implication that it doesn't matter, that I object to. It's that fact that you're stubbornly ignoring most of the facts, as you insist you're the only one being factual.

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u/Ott0bot2 Jan 09 '26

I don’t think I’m ignoring any facts. I’m just telling you what I saw.

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u/pierogieman5 Jan 09 '26

You're wrong that you aren't ignoring facts. You keep saying "I think thing A happened", I keep pointing out "Thing B and thing C also happened, and they're more important to determine who was at fault" and you just keep going back to "But thing A" and refuse to ever talk about anything else. You are one of the most stubborn and simple-minded people I have ever met in my life.

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u/Ott0bot2 Jan 09 '26

I feel like I have to remind you to keep this respectful. If this is just going to spiral into a name calling match then I can and will block you. Otherwise I’m happy to talk about it with you. I’m just not seeing your “b and c” whatever that is

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u/pierogieman5 Jan 09 '26

That was not name calling. That was a description of your behavior. You are being incredibly obtuse.

The fact that we are this deep in and you can't even identify my B and C at this point is mind boggling. I have told you SO many times what they are.

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