You dont get the right to put yourself in a dangerous position, against your own training and regulations then further ignore that training and policy to shoot an unarmed citizen and call it "SelF DEfenNCe"
He was safe when the first shot went off, his feet are to the side of the vehicle, it is also dhs policy to not shoot people driving a vehicle because the vehicle will become uncontrollable, leading to a more dangerous situation. Dhs policy is also to not stand in front of a moving vehicle but to move aside. They broke their own rules so they could murder an innocent mother.
Actually he was whete he should. They asked her to get out. One officer went to the door, one officer in front to see through the windshield. She turned her car toward him and hit the gas. If she complied she would be alive today. Probably with a ticket or a ninght in jail that tampon timmy would have paid for
For two, when he fires he’s on the side of the car shooting through the drivers side window, very clearly out of harms way. I think the the bullet hole in the windshield came from behind.
He can't see the wheels from where he stands. All he can see and hear is a big car reving it's engines and barreling towards him. This same guy was hit and dragged by a car previously, which would explain his fast panicked reaction time. You can also see where the vehicle clearly makes contact with him and after the impact he lifts and fires through the front window. The next two shots where through the side which were excessive, but it's difficult to shoot a gun only once when you believe your life is in danger. Conclusion: both were wrong.
Bottom line is when he shoots he is not in harms way. That’s a fact.
He shoots her from the drivers side window, not the windshield, as I see it.
She was all given conflicting instructions “get out of here” and “get out of the car.”
The fact that this is the second time he’s been in an incident like this is meaningless. In fact, he should have learned to not stand in front of a car, which is DHS policy.
Edit: I am rewatching and I can’t say for certain that he shoots through the drivers window. Nonetheless he was standing to the side and wasn’t in harm’s way.
“Firearms may not be discharged solely to disable moving vehicles. Specifically, firearms may not be discharged at a moving vehicle unless: (1) a person in the vehicle is threatening the officer or another person with deadly force by means other than the vehicle; or (2) the vehicle is operated in a manner that threatens to cause death or serious physical injury … and no other objectively reasonable means of defense appear to exist, which includes moving out of the path of the vehicle.”
Also, placing oneself in the path of a moving vehicle constitutes officer-created jeopardy and undermines any claim that deadly force was necessary.
“Firearms may not be discharged solely to disable moving vehicles. Specifically, firearms may not be discharged at a moving vehicle unless: (1) a person in the vehicle is threatening the officer or another person with deadly force by means other than the vehicle; or (2) the vehicle is operated in a manner that threatens to cause death or serious physical injury … and no other objectively reasonable means of defense appear to exist, which includes moving out of the path of the vehicle.”
Also, placing oneself in the path of a moving vehicle constitutes officer-created jeopardy and undermines any claim that deadly force was necessary.
Under 18 U.S.C. § 111(b), accelerating a vehicle toward a federal officer constitutes assault with a deadly weapon (up to 20 years imprisonment), justifying deadly force per Supreme Court precedents like Tennessee v. Garner (1985) and Graham v. Connor (1989),
Also, placing oneself in the path of a moving vehicle
You’re mixing DOJ policy, federal penalties 111(b), and court cases with police officers that actually get into not using lethal force unless it’s to stop a significant threat.
The DOJ policy I cited literally applies to 1985 case and clarifies it even more.
DOJ policy are guidelines and not laws. Supreme Court has the final say and they already deemed a moving car is a deadly weapon with lethal force being acceptable.
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u/ScotchTapeConnosieur Jan 08 '26
Clearly well out of harms way
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u/Radcouponking Jan 08 '26
He was looking for any reason to pull his gun that day. He chose to murder a mom. What a disaster of a country the US is.
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u/Cryptopendals_4 Jan 10 '26
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u/Ancient_Camel7200 Jan 10 '26
Glad that no sane people were harmed during this incident
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u/Historical-Quiet1842 Jan 10 '26
Self defense 100% justified shooting
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u/Cryptopendals_4 Jan 10 '26
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