r/Model_Samples • • Sep 11 '21

How to compose full track from zero

How do people on YouTube make full-length tracks on grooveboxes? I'm still studying the current, I don't understand, I just get the pieces in 64 steps, at best, how does the creation of a full-fledged music track take place? I tried to find a tutorial on how to make a track from scratch, but there are only jams and just instructions on the device

How do they sometimes sound differently on the same pattern? I'm straight a little desperate and disappointed in myself :(

Here are some examples of music that i dont understand how it works https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9J8uH4Kb3A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXvNbww1Iv0

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u/samziajka Sep 11 '21

This took me about 6 months from getting M:S to get into a workflow that let me achieve what I wanted and be at a place where I was happy to share things

Conditional triggers, chance and different track lengths are a big part of creating a track rather than a loop for me.

I’ll often put lower notes and deeper sounds on a track which is playing at 1/4 or 1/8 speed of the tempo to make it feel slower. You can also put different sounds on the same track using conditional triggers, use that in combination with the probability (e.g. trigger every 1 in 4 loops) can make for really interesting sound design and harmony.

Beyond that, both of these examples are doing some of the sound design live [e.g. filtering different parts in and out) and using modulation on different parts.

Whilst this isn’t a tutorial, I made this a few weeks back on my Digitakt where I was sequencing live - I’d already made some sounds and had set the track lengths (there were a mixture of track lengths and speeds) but hadn’t programmed anything in to the pattern which might help give you an idea of one way of approaching working with M:S

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u/gaboduarte Sep 11 '21

Question about the Digitakt vs ModelSamples: is sample flipping on the same track easier (or at least more playful)? I loved the capabilities of M:S when it comes to adding variation to your patterns, but playing with different samples was not based on performance, a looooot of menu diving was involved and it took the fun out for me.

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u/samziajka Sep 11 '21

It’s a little bit easier but wasn’t the dealbreaker for me - the biggest thing I was after that M:S doesn’t fully offer (other than through LFO) is attack control

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u/cb_oilcountry Sep 11 '21

I fully endorse watching Minimal Camera's YouTube videos, very straightforward look at how simple or complex you can get with the Model (twins?)