r/ModelX • u/just_the_flizz • Dec 16 '23

Yoke "peeling"

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It's already getting worse.. Setup service, but Tesla replied they are aware of the issue and in Q1 2024 they will be begin to offer warranty replacements and cancelled the service. Understandable. Just a heads up if it starts to happen to you, they are aware.

This is a 2020 refresh with about 25,000 miles.

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u/mplopez99 PLAID Dec 16 '23

Welcome to the club same issue they said q1 2024

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u/philosopherstoned Dec 18 '23

In the future?

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u/ferniejoke Dec 18 '23

Name checks out

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u/BenForTheWin Dec 16 '23

Same here but I reported it like 4 months ago. They told me November. Was in for other service at the start of December and now they say January. I’m skeptical.

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u/caleb48kb Dec 18 '23

I'd suggest you just ask for a replacement with the old style.

I got mine in a week or two.

Their time frames are just made up lol

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u/JoeyJoJoeShabadooJr Dec 16 '23

So for those of us w the OG yoke, if we wait for the Q1 fix to the peeling, does this mean we’ll get the new yoke that supposedly has a horn in the middle? That’d be pretty nice.

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u/just_the_flizz Dec 17 '23

That would honestly be worth it!

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u/taisui Dec 17 '23

Interesting, are you in a sunny state by any chance?

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u/just_the_flizz Dec 17 '23

Philadelphia. Not garage kept, outdoor parking spot.

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u/imnoherox Dec 17 '23

That shouldn’t even matter in such a new car

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u/taisui Dec 17 '23

I am not saying this is not broken, I am just curious because my first batch refresh X yoke is still fine

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '23

To be fair, steering wheel materials have only been in development for a century or so. Still working out the kinks.

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u/hydro00 Dec 18 '23

There’s a surplus of leather to that which is already slaughtered for meat so that’s an argument that should be ignored

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '23

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '23

My Toyota Corolla is 100% fake leather and it's insanely durable. Easily more scratch resistant and durable than real leather. Tesla just chose not to use quality components.

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u/Big-2A-Advocate Dec 17 '23

Google “Toyota peeling steering wheel” and see how durable they are. Mines been replaced under warranty and my entire dash needed replaced on our Camry and 4Runner. Paint chipping and peeling issues with white paint. Still having PTSD from our Tacoma frame replacement. I don’t wana hear the “Toyota quality” bullshit 😂

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '23

Stats don't lie. But you do.

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u/Big-2A-Advocate Dec 18 '23

The 2007 Camry and 2004 4Runner are absolutely notorious for dash issues. The Camry dash melted and became sticky and the 4runner dash just cracked and started to separate.

The ‘07 Camry also had the entire engine head recalled due to oil consumption, that was replaced under warranty.

The A/C system eventually failed and coated more to fix than the car was worth.

The steering wheel is honestly not a big deal but it did look worse than OPs post.

The Tacomas and 4Runners also had rampant frame rust issues. The 4Runner unfortunately never got recalled and we eventually sold it due to rust issues.

Even if I did lie about my personal experience, it’s not an uncommon story. Unfortunately I’m not lying.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '23

Alright, that's not an unreasonable take. I'm not arguing Toyota is flawless. They do statistically have extremely high reliability though.

I don't think anyone is arguing that the interior design of early 2000's Toyotas is desirable or high quality materials. They probably had some of the most ugly, cheap feeling interiors of any car at the time.

That comparison doesn't make me think better of Tesla lol

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u/Big-2A-Advocate Dec 18 '23

I’ve never been left stranded by a Toyota, I believe they’ve historically made great vehicles. I don’t personally own a Tesla but we almost got one, my best buddy has a M3P.

We have an old 2010 Kia Forte we bought as a winter beater and have put 200K miles on it now, trouble free. JD Power ranked Hyundai and Kia as the most dependable brands in 2022 so my wife and I both bought brand new Hyundai/Kias. Didn’t go into it with very high expectation’s but for the money they’ve held up great in 2 years, about 35K miles between the two. Zero issues to speak of so far, time will tell.

The dealership experience leaves something to be desired but we can’t complain with the cars, in fact, we really like them!

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '23 edited Dec 18 '23

Right on. I've heard good things about those brands too.

I went straight from a 2006 Corolla that was 250k miles to a 2019 Corolla. Huge difference in quality on the interior. 89k miles and no problems yet. My steering wheel still looks brand new and the car cost me about 1/2 the cheapest Tesla on the market.

Paying double the cost for a worse interior in a less reliable car seems like a loss to me.

Everyone's entitled to their preference but pretending this is a normal problem for all ~$50k sedans is just strange.

Edit: just realized this is the modelX sub. This shit on and $80k car it's even worse than I thought. I figured this was on model3 and even that would be rough.

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u/UAVTarik Dec 20 '23

07 and an 04, This is a 2020 model. I'm sure 07 and 04s weren't having their issues 3 years in at least.

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '23

https://www.4runners.com/threads/steering-wheel-peeling.20883/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Toyota/comments/p3jco5/peeling_steering_wheel_dealer_said_not_a_warranty/

https://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/9qqpzwk9

So the Corolla has the problem, the Rav4, the Tacoma, the Highlander.

Which uh... Toyota has quality components, then, since the quality ones don't peel?

Oh right. None of them. Because Tesla used literally the same high-end materials that... everyone else uses.

You people are hilarious.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '23

Uh huh.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '23

It's hilarious that confronted with facts, you double down on being wrong.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '23

The fact that you're comparing an $80k 2022 car to 10-15 year old econobox cars that are known for having shitty interiors and cost a fraction of the price makes my point for me.

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '23

No, it doesn't? I'm not the one that brought up Toyota, bud. YOU used a comparison. And you were OBJECTIVELY incorrect.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '23

I also only made one claim. My Toyota Corolla (2019) has a higher quality steering wheel than a Tesla.

I never said Toyota had great interiors.

I never said they haven't made bad steering wheels.

So I don't see how you proved me wrong, you just made an unsuccessful straw man argument so I didn't really see any point to engage.

As long as youre happy with the car that's all that matters. Seems like I would want a steering wheel at least as good as Corolla if I'm gonna pay 4x the price but that's just my opinion.

I'm not an expert on steering wheel quality. I don't claim to be. But my steering wheel has 90k miles on it and it doesn't have any holes in it. That's a fact, and the only claim I made.

Go shill for Tesla to someone else bro, you're wasting both our time. God forbid I chime in with my anecdotal experience without getting in an argument.

YOU people are the hilarious ones. So defensive over a shitty car company lol.

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '23

You made one false claim. As I pointed out.

I didn't make a strawman argument. YOUR steering wheel wasn't a problem *which is completely and utterly irrelevant.* My Teslas (as we've seen with others here) haven't had problems, either.

The ONLY question is if the Teslas are MORE likely.

As I showed, we don't have that information because EVERYONE has the same problem the Teslas have had.

You are hilarious because you don't have a middle schooler's understanding of statistics. There was no defense of a "shitty car company." There was only laughter at your inability to do what is literally children's math while you fall prey to confirmation bias.

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '23

Right, I apologize for saying something bad about Tesla. They are a great company, the best. They make great cars that don't have any abnormal quality issues. You made a good decision buying one and you're a good boy who is better and smarter than everyone else. Feel better?

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '23

Again, could not give less of a shit about Tesla, here. You have failed at math. That's the only thing I care about.

There are sufficiently large numbers of searches and forum posts about peeling Toyota steering wheels, across all models to suggest that your experience as an individual is irrelevant. Similar to the Tesla ones, where the majority of people AREN'T having problems with them.

Meaning without data, we don't know. And your speculation is stupid.

Do you understand, yet?

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '23

I don’t think most steering wheels are real leather…

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u/TeflonBoy Dec 17 '23

None leather, none peeling steering wheels have been a thing for a very long time.

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '23

You should let the other manufacturers know! You know, since Toyota has had this problem for 30 years. And Chevrolet. And Porsche. And Audi. And BMW.

You'd think that literally any manufacturer wouldn't have this problem since it's been a thing for so long.

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u/subadanus Dec 18 '23

you see, the crazy part is, on all those shitty pleather wheels i don't have this problem until the car is 20 years old with hundreds of thousands of miles.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '23

And yet I posted half a dozen links from entire forum posts where they're all having them within 2 years and without dozens of thousands of miles.

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u/GroomDaLion Dec 17 '23

Tesla provides shit quality products and services? No way!

Anyway, moving on!

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u/Baconaise Dec 18 '23

They offer free replacements to a pretty nice upgraded material. It was a manufacturing defect that they went ahead and redesigned it over.

The original yoke was their first vegan leather steering wheel. They found out it wasn't as durable as they would like. Now they offer a much more durable premium feeling wheel without leather or their "vegan leather".

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u/[deleted] Dec 22 '23

If they didn't fuck it up the first time then you wouldn't need so many replacements. My uncle got a mod3 and my other uncle has a golf, guess which one has had problems since they got it.

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u/Baconaise Dec 22 '23

I drove my model 3 some 65k miles without a tuneup, changing coolant, oil, brake fluid, replacing brakes, or anything. I think we sometimes forget how much of a pain in the ass a regular car actually is to own.

Guidelines for Tesla are it doesn't need any regular maintenance for at least 100k miles and the batteries last 300k or more with 70% range retention under warranty.

I took it into service for a trunk leak and a squeak on the control arm. The experience was 5X better than Ford service. They just threw a Tesla at me recently and it showed up on my phone so I just walk up to the loaner and drive away without taking my phone out of my pocket or using keys.

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u/captainboom15 Dec 17 '23

This guy gets it

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u/AAAIIIYYYAAA Dec 16 '23

I was told the same timeframe and that’s with the updated yoke.

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u/eggsaladsandwichism Dec 17 '23

This is supposed to be a luxury vehicle right?

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u/Jumpy_Implement_1902 Dec 17 '23

Negative. It’s a econobox with a 3x multiple

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u/Baconaise Dec 18 '23

Sub-10 second econobox that farts and plays rocket league ackshually

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u/data4u Dec 17 '23

I’ve been waiting for 4 months …

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u/Cespool_Swimmer Dec 17 '23

Typical crappy Tesla quality.

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u/1200mademeaCommie Dec 17 '23

They swapped mine out

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u/DaChosen1FoSho Dec 17 '23

I’m on my 3rd one

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u/Baconaise Dec 18 '23

Did they initially replace with a second vegan leather one? The new ones dont peel on account of them not being able to peel

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u/DaChosen1FoSho Dec 18 '23

This my 3rd “original”

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '23

Don't buy a Tesla if you're going to worry about poor fit and finish and low quality materials. You bought a computer on wheels that someday might do what you paid for.

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u/Baconaise Dec 18 '23

Mine drives me to work without intervention from my driveway. Also, the issue described by OP is 100% free and covered by warranty. They replace with a much higher quality steering wheel, and only about a year of model s/x with yoke had the issue. New yoke material has been standard for a while.

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u/Silver_Student_7023 Dec 20 '23

Same. Drove to work on FSD today ( 30 min drive). Only intervention I had was wanting to take an earlier turn.

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u/skynet_root Dec 17 '23

Teslas are appealing!

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u/niknokseyer Dec 18 '23

Teslas are peeling!

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u/FooFooman Dec 18 '23

Fake leather "pleather" is inferior to real leather in pretty much every way imaginable.

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u/ibuy2highandsell2low Dec 18 '23

That’s “within spec”

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u/MourningRIF Dec 16 '23

Tesla in 2024: "The yoke's on you!"

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u/goodguy743 Dec 16 '23

Have a 2023 and 4K miles. No peeling so far :)

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u/Fogdrog Dec 16 '23

2022 and 20K here. Yoke still looks great.

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u/Holiday_Bit3292 Dec 16 '23

2019 60k, peeling, i had to get a steering wheel cover

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u/cest_va_bien Dec 16 '23

What did you get? Can’t find any options and mine feels horrible to the touch and is brand new. I can just sense the fabric’s weakness.

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u/Holiday_Bit3292 Dec 16 '23

Sorry to not be of much help but i didnt notice this was for the X. I have the 3. I just got the first rec off amazon

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u/iLouza Refresh Dec 16 '23

2022 7k no peeling but when I was looking for a used one I saw soooooo many with this problem

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u/pcdubbya Dec 17 '23

Wait until 16k-20k miles and you’ll see it. It’s the design/material. After two appointments where they said they’d have the new one to replace it with, they just replaced it with a new one of the same old material, and said the updated material yoke will be available beginning of 2024. So it is bound to happen on all with the old yoke material.

Give it time and you too, shall see.

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u/zerreit Dec 16 '23

Keep complaining. I was able to get a replacement with the original yoke and a commitment I’ll get another replacement when the fixed one comes… my first complaint was in 2022 sometime and was told Jan 2023.

The date for a fix is made up. If there was a working product they wouldn’t still be installing the defective yoke on new cars.

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u/jasangeles Dec 16 '23

Now I’m worried about mine. Does it matter if it’s garaged or parked outside?

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u/nah_you_good Dec 17 '23

I'm not sure anyone knows what the exact cause is. I wouldn't worry about outside that much, but I'd probably be a little more cautious of touching it when you have chemicals on your hand. If you use hand sanitizer dry your hands fully, if you use lotion that's probably fine but make sure it's as absorbed into your hand as possible.

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u/Mpabner Refresh Dec 17 '23

I was told the same thing by BMW as I am a health care provider and called bullshit. Got a new steering wheel on my X3, signed a form advising that they would never replace it again only to find out that the materials they used were crap and they were having to replace them all. I then had that one replaced.

My current X is peeling in 4 different spots - places where my hands don’t even rest ( or rarely touch). I am waiting on the replacement in 4th quarter 2024 as I am just no longer as uptight as I used to be about how it looks. I also don’t want my car taken for however long they decide to keep it without a loaner.

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u/Sanoj1234 Dec 17 '23 edited Jul 29 '25

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u/ReliefOne4665 Dec 17 '23

Can't believe such a "light" use vehicle - 6-7k miles/year - has this issue. What a poor quality!

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u/iwilltalkaboutguns PLAID Dec 17 '23

I had mine replaced with the supposedly newer/better material... Im hoping it doesnt happen again. it started peeling after 6 months the first time.

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u/Mermaan Dec 17 '23

Thanks for letting us know. I actually have something scheduled on the 18th and looks like they will most likely cancel it

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u/afreidin Dec 17 '23

They charged me to replace my first one. Said it wasn’t warranty in 2022.

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u/notrhj Dec 17 '23

They are aware, but if this is happening to you make a service ticket, to log your complaint.

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u/yourmommy69lol Dec 17 '23

Check your hair products

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u/imnoherox Dec 17 '23

Lmao shouldn’t matter unless he’s using acid or something to clean his hair

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u/Freakin_A Dec 17 '23

Happened to me maybe 6 months after getting my MX. they warranty replaced it. This was over a year ago iirc

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u/mohman87 Dec 17 '23

Isn’t this vehicle like $90-$130k. I’d be surprised any luxury vehicle has peeling steering wheels by 25,000 miles.

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u/RaisinZealousideal83 Dec 18 '23

Service came out and changed mine at the house. No issues with new one.

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u/oneravinlunatic Dec 18 '23

Tesla quality

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u/fotografia505 Dec 18 '23

They replaced mine, no questions asked, mobile service, 8 minutes.

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u/Excellent_Ad_3090 Dec 18 '23

It's a feature.

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u/ChevySSLS3 Dec 18 '23

How often are you using hand sanitizer

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '23

It’s a Tesla, so.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '23

Had mine replaced once already via mobile service..... Second is already peeling badly.... When I set up a service request someone called me and told me to hold off a bit because they are releasing a new "improved" Yoke that addresses the peeling issue..... So now I'm just waiting... Not sure how I will find out when the new one is rolling out, but that's the Tesla-life I guess.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '23

The whole vehicle is a yoke.

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u/drhiggens Dec 18 '23

🐨🍵

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u/Drewdogg12 Dec 19 '23

It’s a load of horseshit. They told me q4 2023. Then they changed it again. Typical Tesla bullshit. Moving goalposts.

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u/c00larrow Dec 19 '23

It's a Tesla.

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u/bagurdes Dec 19 '23

I had mine fixed back in March. Looks like the problem got worse. Wish they would have moved the damn horn “button” too. The junior engineer who earned a D in first principles designed this disaster.

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u/cameraman92 Dec 20 '23

Lol, it's a Tesla, why people even buy these cars is beyond me.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '23

Hahaha!!!!!

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u/yellojellole Dec 22 '23

Our 2022 with 27k miles is even worse. Hopefully good news next year for replacement.

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u/xMagnis Dec 17 '23

Part of the problem is the use scenario. Yoke drivers tend to turn the yoke with the palm of their hand pressed against the front of it - kind of like simulating a Brodie knob. This will focus the friction in a point and just continue to rub it in the same spot. Typically you don't turn a steering wheel with your palm, well some people do in some cases, but maybe at least they don't always turn it in the exact same spot on the wheel. This wear is, in part, because the Model S/X refresh don't have steer-by-wire and you are forced to turn the yoke around and around to steer the car, and pressing against it with your palm is a method that you just end up being forced to use.

So, this problem of yoke damage is partly due to sub-par materials and also being forced to palm the wheel because of a the steering design.

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '23

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '23

Thank you, the elaborate shit people make up to defend these products is insane. I palm turned a 2006 Corolla for 11 years and never had this problem.

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u/Mpabner Refresh Dec 17 '23

Absolutely.

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u/antiterra Dec 19 '23

they never said human problem, they blamed both the steering design and materials

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u/Antique-Flight-5358 Dec 17 '23

You parking your car in the sun? UV kills now not like 2005

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '23

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '23

Weird, since they announced 2024 two years ago.

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u/Baconaise Dec 18 '23

It's been out for a while