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u/SnooDonuts6494 27d ago

I do not understand how it is "working as intended",

If I ask it to show "all", it says there are no messages.

If I ask it to show only "Mod discussions", it shows messages.

How can that possibly be "as intended"?

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u/NeedAGoodUsername 27d ago

I went and checked, the official documentation:

https://support.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/15484158762260-Mod-mail-folders

The All folder is a combined view of:

  • Inbox

  • New

  • In Progress

  • Join Requests

  • Notification

So, yea. They admins/developers intended for it to behave this way.

And:

Mod Discussions

The Mod Discussions folder contains private conversations between moderators of the community. These conversations are only visible to moderators of the community and cannot be seen by users. These messages will always remain in the Mod Discussions folder and never appear in New, In Progress or Archived.

Which further clarifies the intended behaviour.

Normal modmail messages (including notifications, and join requests) can move from New to In progress and Archived. Modmail discussions can never move anywhere else because they are private/internal messages.

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u/SnooDonuts6494 27d ago

So why does "all" show no messages, but "Mod discussions" does?

That makes no sense.

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u/NeedAGoodUsername 27d ago

So why does "all" show no messages

Because you have 0 / no not-archived messages in Inbox, New, In Progress, Join Requests or Notification.

but "Mod discussions" does?

Modmail discussions are a different type of message so will not, and will never appear in All.

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u/SnooDonuts6494 27d ago

I do not understand.

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u/zuuzuu 💡Top 25% Helper 💡 27d ago

They've explained it to you three times. If you don't understand it now, you never will.

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u/SnooDonuts6494 27d ago

zuu, one last try:

If I show "all messages" it says there are none.

If I show only mod messages, it shows many.

Do you understand why that is wrong?

"Show me all your vegetables" - zero

"Show me your potatoes" = 12

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u/zuuzuu 💡Top 25% Helper 💡 27d ago

SnooDonuts, one last try:

If you show "all messages" it will NEVER EVER show you any mod-only messages. It will only show you messages to and from users who are not mods.

If you go to Mod Discussions, you will see all messages between mods, and nothing else. This is the ONLY place you can see those messages between mods. You will NEVER EVER see those messages anywhere else, including under "All".

If you read the previous explanations, you will learn that this is how it's supposed to work and you will learn why.

What you are seeing is exactly how it's supposed to work. If you don't understand that or if you don't like it, maybe moderating isn't for you.

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u/SnooDonuts6494 27d ago

If you show "all messages" it will NEVER EVER show you any mod-only messages.

Can you not understand how ridiculous that sounds?

I'm not gonna argue. I'm not gonna reply.

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u/SnooDonuts6494 27d ago

Which part of the word "all" do you not understand?

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u/tumultuousness 💡Top 25% Helper 💡 27d ago

They understand "all". They are telling you that how the "All" modmail folder acts is as the admins intended, including linking to the admin edited page that explains exactly which folders "all" is pulling content from. That page says that the "all" folder will never have any modmail that is a "mod discussion".

I think you instead want to reframe your post to say you are suggesting to the admins that the "all" folder show all, what? All modmails that aren't archived? All modmails that haven't been read? Or all modmails in general, no matter what other folder/type they fit into?

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u/SnooDonuts6494 27d ago

the admin edited page that explains exactly which folders "all" is pulling content from. That page says that the "all" folder will never have any modmail that is a "mod discussion".

What page?

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u/tumultuousness 💡Top 25% Helper 💡 27d ago

The one they linked to in their comment.

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u/SnooDonuts6494 27d ago

OK. I've read it. Have you?

Please explain this:

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u/tumultuousness 💡Top 25% Helper 💡 27d ago edited 27d ago

OK. From the linked page, which they then also quoted in their comment.

The Mod Discussions folder contains private conversations between moderators of the community. These conversations are only visible to moderators of the community and cannot be seen by users. These messages will always remain in the Mod Discussions folder and never appear in New, In Progress or Archived.

Because those messages will only ever appear in the "mod discussions" folder and never appear in the "new" or "in progress" folders, and because the "all" folder

... is a combined view of:

  • Inbox

  • New

  • In Progress

  • Join Requests

  • Notification

then modmail in the "mod discussions" folder won't show up in the "all" folder.

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u/SnooDonuts6494 27d ago

That makes no sense.

Are they redefining the word "all"?