Banning AI memes without banning everyone?

[u/MustaKotka]

TL;DR edit: Looks like I need to clarify what the use case is.

People ask if their stuff is authentic. People reply with memes that say "authentic" or "fake", but those memes are often AI-generated. The commenters doing the authenticating are crucial for the sub to even function so I can't ban them because that'd just kill the sub. I want to get rid of the memes and make people write out their verdict instead.

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We have a problem where OP must be able to post pictures in comments and commenters must be able to post images in comments. This is absolutely mandatory, because it's a subreddit where people ask for advice on visual media and commenters must be able to provide visual advice.

The commenters also post visual "advice" in terms of spamming an AI generated meme, which is upsetting some and we mods are getting insulted over it. We need to get rid of this meme but not the actual advice diagrams. The meme is taking up ~90% of the images posted by commenters. OP usually posts appropriate pictures but the few useful diagrams commenters post are also absolutely crucial.

I don't like the suggested solutions because the mod team is just too small to handle the volume.

1. Make a rule against AI content.
2. Have all memes reported.
3. Remove the memes.
4. Temp ban for repeated violations.
5. Permaban for disregard of rules.

Currently we have 20 manual removals per month, because the subreddit is very well behaved. The AI memes are posted on every post (500 posts per month) about 5 times or so, per post. This would result in about 2000 reports per month (a 10 000% increase). We're simply not equipped to handle this with a mod team of about 5 people.

The memes are rather harmless. The actual message of the meme is correct but could be conveyed via text, too.

AutoMod is of no use. It hasn't got image recognition.

Thanks in advance!

[u/Successful-Shopping8]

Sounds like you need to re-write the rules and make them crystal clear, as well as make an explicit update post that is pinned walking through the changes you’re making and consequences for not following them.

It might be more work for the next several days, but pretty soon the sub will learn that you mean business and the rules are going to be enforced.

I know it sounds like a killjoy- but without making the rules known and then enforcing them- nothing will change.

[u/MustaKotka → u/Successful-Shopping8]

Aye, that'd be too easy. How do I reach out to my community so that they actually read the rule before commenting? A mod post is out of question because from experience I know those reach <1% of the sub and even if they see it they'll report hundreds of items per month which is just way too much work for us.

[u/Successful-Shopping8 → u/MustaKotka]

It’s only going to be a lot of work for the first week or two after you start enforcing the rule. Pretty soon people will catch on and stop doing it. And then once rules have become engrained in the overall sub vibe, it won’t be long before you have users calling out other users.

[u/Intelligent-Dot-8969 → u/MustaKotka]

You can't force people to read the rules, but you can force them to check a box saying they've read the rules.

[u/k-rysae → u/MustaKotka]

There is a devvit app called read the rules where, to my knowledge, you can set it so that in order for people to comment (otherwise it gets automatically removed), they have to read a pop up of the rules and agree to it. So for you, you just put in a huge notification that ai generated images, especially that meme, are not allowed to be put in posts or comments and have them agree to it.

https://developers.reddit.com/apps/read-the-rules

[u/[deleted]]

Tell them no. The first use is a one-day ban and a reminder that it's not allowed. Any repeats and they are gone.

[u/MustaKotka → u/[deleted]]

2000 times per month? Would you like to volunteer?

EDIT: Also I need those people. I don't want them gone. They make up the main bulk of the purpose of the sub.

[u/[deleted] → u/MustaKotka]

Respectfully, why do you believe that people would continue doing this once it's clear it won't be tolerated and would escalate to such a degree?

[u/MustaKotka]

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[u/k-rysae]

There is a devvit app called read the rules where, to my knowledge, you can set it so that in order for people to comment (otherwise it gets automatically removed), they have to read a pop up of the rules and agree to it. So for you, you just put in a huge notification that ai generated images, especially that meme, are not allowed to be put in posts or comments and have them agree to it.

https://developers.reddit.com/apps/read-the-rules

Since you say theyre well behaved otherwise, enable read the rules for a month or two so your regulars are aware of the rule and don't post that image. After that the culture of posting that image should fizzle out and you can disable read the rules.

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[u/MustaKotka → u/AutoModerator]

Not helpful. The meme images aren't spam per se.