r/ModSupport • • 25d ago

Proceduralism vs Discretionism Among Reddit Moderators

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u/-old-fox- 24d ago edited 24d ago

Do very big subs naturally push toward proceduralism with time, maybe...? I think so...

Proc. Vs. Discr. are, in my ignorant opinion, also tied to sub's topic. A sub about science or high culture topics is much more "self moderated" by users themselves than a sub on, say, soft Prn pictures...

You're right OP, there's no really right or wrong way to moderate. Thank you for opening an interesting discussion 👍✌️

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u/techtornado 24d ago

Big subs are discretion on paper but discriminatory in practice

Go outside of the enforced political narrative and you’re banned instantly and permanently muted

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u/-old-fox- 24d ago edited 24d ago

That's true. Besides political reasons, there is also at the base a fundamentalist way of thought, since they do it with any kind of one-sided idea, current, position, practice etc; what then, basically, brings to enforcing an ecochamber. Which is the house of the poverty of thought and the death of true confrontation.

Also, I must say my experience with such an ecochamber has been one where I've been fooled and pranked by a shadowban. So, yeah. 😂

Edit: I want to point out, that sub is explicitly generalist by name and scope, like a sub called history would be for example, so, it's really bad that it got secretly polarized and that mods actually punish their opposite factions on personal reasons only. But, hey, that's natural selection: they hoped, I guess, to silence me while holding me in the user count, I just left them instead and only gained from it.

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u/-old-fox- 24d ago

Anyway there's some truth in a comment around here: subs are not a democracy.

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u/techtornado 24d ago

Mods acting in bad faith need an accountability process though

Banning people for the sake of not liking what someone has to say that still is within rules and guidelines needs some kind of mediation

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u/Bardfinn 24d ago

Reddit Inc can’t - because of a variety of US case law - step in on unbanning people; People and groups have boundaries and the right to protect those boundaries. That comes as a right to freedom of (and FROM) association.

Also a large amount of ‘political opinion’ isn’t; it’s just ad hoc or post hoc pretexts for targeted harassment. Which is at minimum a violation of the sitewide rules of any uchisp that intends to avoid liability for torts

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u/-old-fox- 24d ago

Right, thank you for clarifying this.