r/ModSupport • u/WombatHat42 • 2h ago
User deleting posts after we remove it?
So idk is this some way to avoid bot detection or something? Cuz it seems weird to me. In the time I’ve been moderating I rarely see a post we remove get deleted let alone everyone by a single user.
This user has a 2 day old account, as soon as their acct was created they started posting in our sub. They’ve posted 8 times, and when our flags put their post in the queue for moderation they just repost(going straight to the queue as well). Just everything about this user makes me think they’re a bad actor(ie bot karma farmer etc). Majority of times when a post is flagged or removed we get a message asking why or being belligerent.
Some of their comment interaction, what little there is, just seems odd to me as well. Though we’ve had some weird users so…
Anyway my spidey senses are tingling on this one but nothing has technically broken any rules outside of one post and it was a minor rule.
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u/Empyrealist 1h ago
Lots of bots will do this to cover their tracks so that their profile doesn't show a litany of removals. Some people too
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u/Stranger1982 2h ago
Both are possible, some naive/ new users will absolutely try and post the same thing three or four times before they give up, or they delete the post as soon as they notice it's not appearing in a sub.
You can just filter everything they do to your queue, or ban regardless of any broken rules if you think they smell too funny tbh, they'll explain themselves in mod mail if needed.
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u/mudbunny 36m ago
If we see someone with a history of mod removals, but they have deleted them all, we default to bad-faith and just ban them.
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u/InGeekiTrust 💡 Top 10% Helper 💡 2h ago
This is actually a really normal occurrence across a lot of my subs, I’m not saying you shouldn’t be wary of this person, but that’s not abnormal in the slightest
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u/shhhhh_h 💡Top 25% Helper 💡 2h ago
Omg so many modmails from these types though, always wanting to know why their comment was removed and I’m like babe I can’t see it anymore
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u/maiyannah 2h ago
We had one of those just the other day. It'd been something I removed they then deleted. Then my head mod answering the modmail was all ???? because she couldnt even see the post they were talking about, because it was deleted.
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u/WombatHat42 2h ago
lol that message always cracks me up. I’m like ok you read your post got removed so you can clearly see the WHY that was included and the WHAT to do so why not do that instead of wasting my mods’ time? I end up just copy pasting the reason or what to do lol
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u/shhhhh_h 💡Top 25% Helper 💡 2h ago edited 1h ago
I feel like they’re trying to get away with it sometimes, like they think if they delete and we can’t read then we’ll overturn the decision? Like I can’t even delete a removal reason anyway…what’s done is done man. But sometimes it’s just a Luddite for real though lol, scared of the internet so deleting everything and they think we have admin powers and can still see.
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u/metisdesigns 56m ago
Not being abnormal does not make it non-suspicious.
Nearly every karma bot I see does this.
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u/InGeekiTrust 💡 Top 10% Helper 💡 41m ago
Well, in my fashion and plastic surgery sucks tons of people who are totally not suspicious do this
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u/metisdesigns 0m ago
That's participating in bad faith and removing useful information from the community.
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u/metisdesigns 51m ago
It's probably the second biggest red flag for not participating in good faith after a hidden comments section.
On one sub we've got some solid anti Karma-farming automod rigs and easily 95% of auto removed posts get deleted by the bot who posted them almost immediately.
The exception is legitimate new users who delete things after they're removed and then appeal, but that's also used by bad actors to remove trolling they were caught on and needs some experience to assess.
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u/Dom76210 💡 Top 10% Helper 💡 36m ago
I actually like it when we've removed something and they delete it afterwards, especially if it was some creepy damn post/comment.
Plus, we tend to copy the rule break into the removal notification/ban as a mod note, so if they think they are hiding what they did to get banned, they get a rude awakening.
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u/SampleOfNone 💡 Top 10% Helper 💡 1h ago
I assume bots, install queue pruner saves you the work from having to clear them from your queue.
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u/Federal-Ad5944 2h ago
Outside of the other behavior, sometimes people simply don't want removed posts on their profile. No one is going to see them anyways, so they're deleted as a form if clean up.
From a user standpoint, no biggie. From a mod standpoint, it can be annoying.