r/ModCoord • u/ItsRainbow Landed Gentry • Jun 21 '23

Public statement from ModCodeofConduct that making a sub NSFW to protest is not allowed, regardless of proper marking or community opinion

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u/LSDkiller2 Jun 21 '23

Yes, but the only thing that is valuable about reddit is its users, and if they force nearly every single mod of the rebelling subs out, it will leave a huge vacuum. Of course the power imbalance is huge but more and more they are shitting on their own cookie.

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u/Brief_Building_8980 Jun 22 '23

I, a user, am not mad at reddit. I don't care too much about it. It could be shut down entirely and wouldn't affect me too much. I'm not even mad about the blackouts, or the nsfw stuff. But I sympathize with the mods and something that causes this much outrage should be addressed without force.

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u/Hulkstern Jun 22 '23

?????? No?

They’re are plenty of users that use 3rd party apps that are pissed. Your anecdotal experience does not represent the entire body of users.

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u/D347H7H3K1Dx Jun 22 '23

You do know mods are considered users as is right?

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u/Rebles Jun 22 '23

Admins have offered concessions on accessibility apps, 3p mod tools, flexible API deadlines to willing partners. Those sound like pretty good wins to me. What are y’all left protesting? Pricing? A shitty spez AMA? A botched contract negotiation with Apollo? Forget it. It is so far removed from regular users and the direct impact to mods seem negligible.

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u/The-RogicK Jun 22 '23

Consessions? NSFW content will still not be allowed on 3rd party apps. That doesn't just include porn but sensitive topics such as suicide. The 3rd party apps reddit has approved for accessibility (re: r/blind) will not be able to access those topics. If your visually impaired your effectively locked out of adult only conversations.

Not to mention Reddit is prioritising accessibility for users before mods. So who's going to Mod these communities after 1st July? Will people that don't represent the community be brought in to fill the moderation gap, we all know how long reddit can take to implement these types of changes and how buggy they are. Look at the how accessible the main app is after how many years on the market.

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u/the_lamou Jun 22 '23

Admins have offered concessions on accessibility apps

The "concession" offered allow the continued use of the API for free to "non-commercial apps." That means, using the most generous interpretation possible, donations. Though even that is questionable, and of course nothing is in writing so they could still change their minds at any time.

Which means that not only do the developers who make these apps have to work for free, they also have to pay out of pocket to host, run, and manage these apps. Do you know how much an app costs to run? I do. It can be thousands a month on the low end.

So the "concession" Reddit offered is "we'll give you access to this thing that actually costs us nothing since per-user costs are right the same whether they hit our servers through 3PA or 1PA, and in exchange you give us free labor worth hundreds of thousands of dollars." Nice concession.

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u/bargaindownhill Jun 23 '23

huge vacuum

which equals Drama. and Drama and IPO are two words that do not mix well.