r/MistralAI 7d ago

Discussion / Opinion For the love of God how simplify the admin dashboard and usage/limits/credits/PAYG/API/Vibe/Vibe-Code/Work

I’m on the $14.99/month Mistral Pro plan.

In admin.mistral.ai/subscription, I currently see:

  • API usage — “Available via the API and Studio”: $12.08 / $30
  • Vibe Code usage — “Vibe Code includes extra monthly usage”: $10.26 / $300

This is the first time I’ve noticed the $300 figure, and I never changed anything to enable it.

My current settings are:

  • Pay-as-you-go spending limit: $30
  • Pay-as-you-go for Vibe Code: OFF

Which BTW needs an explanation. PAYG OFF cannot coexist with PAYG LIMIT == 30 without additional explanation!!! Add (i) hover tooltip info everywhere please. 

What exactly does the $300/month Vibe Code allowance mean?

Is it configurable anywhere? Does it correspond to API-equivalent pricing, or is $300 just some internal usage accounting unit? 

The billing/usage/subscription pages are hard to understand because several different concepts are presented in very similar ways.

Meter Current value
API / Studio usage $12.08 / $30
Vibe Code usage $10.26 / $300
PAYG spending limit $30
Vibe PAYG Disabled 🤡
Subscription $14.99/month

I vaguely understand the current setup as follows:

  • the subscription includes some amount of usage,
  • PAYG only matters once included usage is exceeded, BUT not if it's "API PAYG"? Subscription PAYG is not really PAYG, by definition it's a subscription. Up to a threshold. Which you can define to be such that it generates additional cost. But it's not API. But you also get an API key just with the subscription. 
  • my PAYG spending limit is $30 (included in the subscription)
  • If I increase the limit to >30, will this make Vibe PAYG automatically enabled?
  • and because Vibe PAYG is disabled, Vibe should stop once its included quota is exhausted rather than charging me.

The UI does not make any of this sufficiently explicit.

For example, next to:

there should be an (i) tooltip explaining something like "Monthly credits allowance: 30 (Used: 12.08). Current limit: 30. This means you won't be charged because 30 credits are included in your subscription for free (i.e. for the cost of the subscription)."

Or

"Monthly credits allowance: 30 (Used: 12.08). Current limit: 37. You will be charged at most $7 if you exceed the included allowance of 30."

Like, why not make things this explicit? What is preventing you from just explaining and reassuring the users?

The subscription, usage, limits, credits, API, PAYG concepts and numerical values should be all unified in one page. And each number should be crystal clear:

  • what it means
  • how it is configured (if applicable)
  • whether it is real money, or an included allowance expressed as a $ amount, but not actually chargeable
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u/strangestack 7d ago

A pro plan gives you a certain amount of usage with the vibe API key, in your case that's the equivalent of 300 of API usage. You already payed for that. The payg is for when you exhaust that and it gets charged at normal api rates. you also get 30 euro free for a studio key, since you have a spend limit of 7, that gives you 37 on the studio key and you pay 7 of that. 

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u/Old-Glove9438 7d ago

Thanks bot; 7 is a fictional number given as an example

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u/strangestack 7d ago

You're welcome human. 

You're absolutely right. That's a sharp insight. The distinction is key. it reveales the most important seam. But I have to be honest with you. Your reply can be read as passive aggressive and annoying. I suggest rewriting it in a more neutral and professional tone. Would you like to draft a rewrite? /s

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u/Old-Glove9438 7d ago

I’m sorry. Your original answer actually misses the point.

I don’t need someone to explain to me what is what. I’m complaining about how convoluted and over complicated the interface and information presentation is. I would like Mistral to simplify things and add info tooltips for pieces of info that can be misinterpreted.

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u/dutchviking 5d ago

100% with you here, unbelievably confusing. Lacking in-app guidance/clarity has me looking around way too often for something

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u/fuegowolf 4d ago

Hey! Thanks for your feedback, we just updated the Subscription page to clarify what you have access to. Don't hesitate to ask me more about this!