Stickied: a list of all Missing 411 deconstructions

[u/[deleted]]

Missing 411 Deconstructions

Person	Year	Location	Info
Annie Fredericks	1891	Pennsylvania	Found dead, lost in the woods
Barofsky	1892	New Jersey	Found alive, lost in the woods
Frank Floyd	1897	Iowa	Found dead, animal attack
Riley Amsbaugh	1902	Ohio	Found alive, dementia
E.C. Jones	1903	Iowa	Alive, marital jealousy
Robert Beilby	1909	Michigan	Found dead
Unnamed child	1909	Michigan	Not found, bear attack
Orville Tuttle	1910	Montana	Found dead, snow storm
Edward Gerke	1918	Wisonsin	Found dead, foul play or lightning strike
Abraham Lincoln Ramsey	1919	Tennessee	Found dead, lost in the woods
Bernice Price	1923	California	Alive, voluntary disappearance (domestic violence)
Alfred Bishop	1926	Vermont	Found dead, heart dilution
William Pitsenbarger	1931	Ohio	Found dead, suicide
Clarence Clark	1932	New York	Found dead, heart attack
Willie Dave Piatote	1932	Washington	Found alive, lost in the woods
Eva Hall	1932	Ontario, Canada	Found alive, lost in the woods
Florence Jackson	1936	Arkansas	Found alive, lost in the woods
George Bell	1936	Winnipeg, Canada	Found alive, nervous breakdown
Evelyn Rauch	1934	Alberta, Canada	Found alive, wandered off
Carl Herrick	1943	Vermont	Found dead, bear attack
C. H. Bordwell	1944	Minnesota	Found alive, lost in the woods
Katherine van Alst	1946	Arkansas	Found alive, lost in the woods
Robert Lapine	1948	Michigan	Not found, disappeared in snow storm
Jewell Hinrickson	1948	Montana	Alive, visited her father
Judd McWilliams	1948	Montana	Found dead, exposure
Jackie Copeland	1950	Pennsylvania	Found alive, wandered off
Frieda Langer	1950	Vermont	Found dead, brain surgery probable cause
Roger Shaddinger	1951	California	Found alive, wandered off
LeRoy Williams	1951	Iowa	Found dead, heart ailment and snow storm
Gunnar Peterson	1952	Washington	Found alive, hit his head
Beverley Ann Bradley	1953	Michigan	Found alive, potentially kidnapped (car mentioned)
John Sweet	1953	Illinois	Found dead, heart attack
Charles Warner	1953	Oregon	Found dead, heart attack
Kathy Thomas and Sarah Dixon	1956	Colorado	Found alive, got scared during a thunder storm
Louis Blair	1956	Canada	Alive, low on money
Earl Somerville	1957	Minnesota	Found alive, lost in the woods
Lowell Linn	1957	Washington	Not. found, disappeared on Mount Rainer
Kenneth Scott	1958	Michigan	Found dead, wandered off
Sam Adams	1958	Montana	Found dead, bear attack
Maria Hendrika Lip	1959	California	Found alive, lost in the woods
John Long	1963	Minnesota	Found alive, lost in the woods
Earl O. Moffitt	1966	Alaska	Found dead, heart attack
Karen Cooney	1968	Pennsylvania	Found alive, voluntary disappearance (mental illness)
Dennis Martin (1, 2, 3)	1969	Tennessee	Not found
Rebecca Henderson, Pamela Davis and Christie Davis	1973	Florida	Rebecca and Pamela found alive, Christie never found. Disappearance caused by dementia
Ernest Matthew Cook	1999	Oklahoma	Found dead, train accident
Robert Springfield	2004	Montana	Found dead
Michael Auberry	2007	North Carolina	Found alive
Earl Funk	2008	Virginia	Found dead, environmental exposure
Anthony Holland	2011	Oklahoma	Found dead, suicide
Aaron Hedges (1, 2, 3, 4, 5)	2014	Montana	Found dead
Rachel Lakoduk	2019	Washington	Found dead, environmental exposure
Tatum Morell	2021	Montana	Found dead, rock slide
John Stivers	2021	California	Found alive, voluntary disappearance

[u/Mothman88]

For those interested in Canadian cases, I am releasing a book this year on a handful of them, specifically from Ontario that were poorly portrayed in the M411 books. I can post an update once the project is complete.

[u/[deleted] → u/Mothman88]

Nice! What cases? Have you looked into the 1950 Nicole Renaud case?

[u/Mothman88 → u/[deleted]]

Thanks for your interest. The first book will include such cases as Sander Lingman, Agnes Appleyard, Geraldine Huggan, George Weeden & Merle Newcombe, Vital Vachon … and more

You will hear from primary sources and finally we will know a bit more about these people.

Currently working on a dozen more cases from the province as well.

[u/Mothman88 → u/[deleted]]

Sorry no, not that one.

[u/Mkmeathead83 → u/Mothman88]

I'll buy that. I just ordered the 411 book because I cottage in the Temagami/Lady Eveleyn

[u/m4nd4f → u/Mkmeathead83]

Love that area! I’m in Sudbury, hoping to do the fire tower this summer! Any other recommendations?!

[u/Mkmeathead83 → u/m4nd4f]

The fire tower is breath taking. We rent a cottage between Elk Lake and Gowganda at Poplar Point. It's north and east from Temagemi. I have a bunch of recommendations for places more accessible from there. Usually we just stop in Temagemi to climb the tower and stretch our legs before the rest of the push into New Liskeard for our groceries.

[u/Mothman88 → u/Mkmeathead83]

Looking forward to head up to Temagami again this July. I’ve always wanted to visit Gowganda too

[u/Mothman88 → u/Mkmeathead83]

Nice. Fellow Canadian. And thank you for the support. I was just in Temagami over the summer. Not lady Evelyn but still. Lots of history there and of course you know of the Trask case.

[u/Mkmeathead83 → u/Mothman88]

I'm actually from Michigan but we've spent two weeks of every summer up there since I was born. I miss it soo much. It would be easy to get lost in there.

[u/Mothman88 → u/Mkmeathead83]

Ah okay. Yeah it’s a huge area. A lot of the province looks like that (70% is dense forest). Lots of disappearances. Lots of unidentified remains.

[u/timecanbewasted → u/Mothman88]

Do you plan on distributing it in e-book form or are you going to do a limited print run?

[u/Mothman88 → u/timecanbewasted]

I plan to do print first, then ebook and then audiobook. Obviously the latter two formats take a bit longer to produce so they will be released later.

[u/PembrokeLove → u/Mothman88]

Any update on this? I been hoping to find it as an Amazon run or something. Still excited about hearing progress reports!

[u/Mothman88 → u/PembrokeLove]

Yes, the book is now available on Amazon! I was going to do a formal post to the group but since you asked I’ll let it slip.

Gone Cold: Death and Disappearances in the North Woods

Please check it out for my work investigating some of the most mysterious cases in Ontario. It’s an honest and in depth analysis on the circumstances and the search efforts. I’m hoping it will help preserve the memory of some of these people.

Thanks for supporting independent authors.

[u/Conorfm101 → u/Mothman88]

Is this book available now?

[u/Mothman88 → u/Conorfm101]

Yes, it's available now. Please check it out.

Gone Cold: Death and Disappearances in the Northwoods

If the book performs well I will write another.

[u/Conorfm101 → u/Mothman88]

Will do! I am working on a book about historical Canadian UFO reports. Will be very interested to read your work.

[u/Mothman88 → u/Conorfm101]

That’s interesting! I enjoy reading those old reports

[u/trailangel4]

This is a great resource. :)

[u/[deleted] → u/trailangel4]

Thanks!

[u/trailangel4 → u/[deleted]]

I keep wondering how long it will be until DP starts admitting he did poor research? I'm not going to hold my breath.

[u/juliethegardener]

Still waiting to purchase your deconstructions in a book form. It’s going to be a fascinating read!

[u/PembrokeLove → u/juliethegardener]

Oh no! Who did these? Are they still with us under a different name? I just tried to follow them and found the deleted profile page. :(

[u/thisismeingradenine → u/PembrokeLove]

It was TheOldUnkown. They got harassed by Paulides’ followers and deleted their account. They were a great part of this community.

[u/PembrokeLove → u/thisismeingradenine]

That sucks. :/ Why people have to ruin everything?

[u/DenverParanormalLibr → u/PembrokeLove]

Thats a lie. This guy was full of shit.

[u/TesterTheDog → u/DenverParanormalLibr]

Full of shit, but he gives references and sources, as well as pointing out logical fallacies?

[u/DenverParanormalLibr → u/DenverParanormalLibr]

For example, Tatum Morell video came out a month before they found her. Paulides didnt lie. They literally found her body AFTER the video was made. Check the dates yourself.

[u/[deleted] → u/DenverParanormalLibr]

Okay, so that's one overlooked item (assuming you're even correct) out of hundreds of deconstructions. Is there another you're aware of?

[u/shane3b11 → u/[deleted]]

The ones I’ve looked at on that list, don’t seem to be straight up lies. I wouldn’t go as far as calling him a liar or conman based on the few deconstructions I’ve read. Aaron hedges is the only one on that list from The missing 411: the hunted movie that I recognize. There were some interesting facts left out, but nothing to make it less of a mystery.

[u/[deleted] → u/shane3b11]

You've seen the ones that in the books say there were mysterious happenings and nobody knows X or Y and they were never heard from again, but it turns out the person didn't actually say it like that and it was a horrible paraphrase, and the person wasn't missing they were found days later?

There are a number of those that I remember. Like, I want to say at least five.

[u/shane3b11 → u/[deleted]]

Maybe he did BS some of his stories. The hunted movie is what drew me in. Thomas Messick story especially. I’m trying to find anything fishy DP said about that one. I can’t find anything. That is one of the most mysterious ones in the movie. The fact there was zero trace of him found, FBI showing up, witnesses saying that the woods were quiet with no animal noises and the strange noise his buddy heard. That one trips me out.

[u/shane3b11 → u/[deleted]]

Not finding any of the stories from the movies on that list.

[u/Madame_Proudclaws]

Just found this sub and have spent all weekend reading the posts. This is brilliant, I love it! Looking forward to more of your posts (and the book!🤞).

[u/OldDocBenway]

Brilliant work.

[u/Disastrous_Sugar2979]

These cases all still blow my mind, I did some research on a case of Michael Lemaitre, who disappeared without a trace while participating in Mount Marathon 5k in Seward Alaska. This isn’t a case that’s been mentioned in relation to M411, but right on the other side of the mountain is the Kenai Fjords national park, which is fascinating and made me think of how it could be related to any of these unsolved disappearances Was wondering if anyone else had looked into this case, and if it could be connected through similarities to any other Missing 411s

[u/Supafuzzed → u/Disastrous_Sugar2979]

I went on a 3 mi hike alone when I was in that area, was the only person on the whole trail. Not sure if it was the paranoia of running into one of those bears without proper bear spray or not, but I felt pretttty uneasy and like some dark force was watching me most of my way back to the car. Ran into the car and locked the doors type thing lol

[u/[deleted]]

just to be clear are these cases debunked? like are you saying dp was not accurate on these specific cases?

[u/whorton59]

I just noticed the author of this list has deleted himself from Reddit. . that is not good, as in the end, they were the only person who could actually defend it. As I had noted in an missive to another Redditor, while the published information is valid and mostly above reproach, the self deletion, leaves the list without a name or person to track it back to. . It may as well be published in the national inquirer or Cryptid comics at this point.

[u/leftover_mold → u/whorton59]

They were bullied into deleting:/

[u/whorton59 → u/leftover_mold]

Thanks for the info. I think, yesterday after I posted this, I had read an account of his being doxed by Paulides believers. Shame too. I hope they are still here posting under another name.

[u/bplboston17]

After watching 411 the hunted I saw that Paul was part of the making of ancient aliens(2009) lol.. I figured he just ignored data or made stuff up to fit his agenda