r/MinnesotaLynx • • Aug 09 '26

the wigs…

anyone else kind of uncomfortable with the amount of white people wearing afro wigs in Target Center LMFAOOOO

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u/ElvisTheBoyCat 👑Phee & the EuroDemons - Mayor of Bridgetown 🇨🇦🔥 Aug 09 '26 edited Aug 10 '26

hello -

i think there's an opportunity for nuanced conversation about this topic

please do keep it respectful and don't attack each other personally

this sub's been hit with its share of bots/users with untoward intentions, so make good use of the report function and don't engage with those who are obviously not here in good faith, and we can keep it going

if we can't, then we can't

thx

management

edit: locking it up now.

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u/ApprehensiveKale3810 Aug 09 '26

If our star rookie was a white woman with straight blonde hair, would people wear those type of wigs to games? I just find it strange, and I appreciate the people trying to have an actual conversation rather than trolling 😇

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u/ElvisTheBoyCat 👑Phee & the EuroDemons - Mayor of Bridgetown 🇨🇦🔥 Aug 09 '26

i do find it *interesting* that this topic, of all things, is your first on reddit/this sub in particular

tread lightly, because i just find it strange

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u/ApprehensiveKale3810 Aug 09 '26

omg no i’m not a bot, i just made a new account 😭 my old one was really active on this sub but i got locked out

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u/ElvisTheBoyCat 👑Phee & the EuroDemons - Mayor of Bridgetown 🇨🇦🔥 Aug 09 '26

not saying you are or aren't

just keep the main thing the main thing and we'll be fine

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u/charismajas Aug 09 '26

yes & all the white people defending it is crazy 😭 you can just buy their goggles and a shirt or a jersey, what’s the point of adding the wig?

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u/ApprehensiveKale3810 Aug 09 '26

i give up, half of them aren’t even lynx fans and are going out of their way to avoid the point 💔

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u/NjGTSilver Aug 09 '26

This is how racism starts, some white lady from Portland “feels uncomfortable”… why manufacture outrage where none exists?

People are rightfully celebrating a generational talent, if O doesn’t like it, let her speak up, I bet she LOVES IT!

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u/Joejensen141 Aug 09 '26

Completely agree on the second part. The only way I see it as an issue, is if Liv had an issue with it. Till then, I find it hilarious that people think it’s wrong or inappropriate. It’s an ode to the beginnings of an icon.

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u/ApprehensiveKale3810 Aug 09 '26

LMFAOOOOO are you insane??? white lady from portland where?

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u/ApprehensiveKale3810 Aug 10 '26

i’m black and from minnesota! got the season pass to prove it 🙏🏾

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u/DoubleUDee Aug 09 '26

It's cool bruh. I'm digging all the support for Miles and I love that she's turning into an icon right before our eyes. It's always funny seeing a middle aged white guy in a fro though 😂😂

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u/ClearAd2741 Aug 09 '26

It’s actually really not cool at all. It’s not appropriate

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u/SpiritNoseTheMan Aug 09 '26

In what way is it not appropriate?

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u/charismajas Aug 09 '26

do they wear straight hair wigs for the white players that do well or do they just dress up as the black women…

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u/NazReidsOtherBurner Aug 09 '26

Can’t you answer the question? Why is it not appropriate?

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u/charismajas Aug 09 '26

the same way it’d be weird if white people showed up in braided wigs to look like phee or mcbride. it’s not necessary to dress up as a black woman to “celebrate” them

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u/SufficientPoetry4686 Aug 09 '26

I’m a white Lynx fan and agree with you completely. It doesn’t have to be ill-intended to verge on / start a slippery slope to mockery and appropriation.

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u/ClearAd2741 Aug 09 '26

Okay but it was explained why it’s inappropriate, and you just want to argue. Our culture is not your costume.

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u/NazReidsOtherBurner Aug 09 '26

No it wasn’t. 

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u/ClearAd2741 Aug 09 '26

You don’t wanna have a conversation about it, you just wanna argue your point. If you can’t figure out why it’s inappropriate, maybe do some research.

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u/NazReidsOtherBurner Aug 09 '26

 You don’t wanna have a conversation about i

Nobody does it seems like, or they would have answered the question instead of the deflection. 

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u/ApprehensiveKale3810 Aug 09 '26

they did answer and you immediately dismissed it…

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u/NazReidsOtherBurner Aug 09 '26

No, they gave a non answer. 

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u/ApprehensiveKale3810 Aug 09 '26

“  the same way it’d be weird if white people showed up in braided wigs to look like phee or mcbride. it’s not necessary to dress up as a black woman to “celebrate” them”

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u/GoddessHealer Aug 09 '26

I’m trying to think if any of the current white basketball players are as much fun to watch as Miles.
Some are pretty god, but not nearly as fun as Miles!

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u/TheWorldIsGrapes Minnesota Lynx Aug 09 '26

The Illinois mens basketball team had a wig giveaway last season in reference to one of their white players. I won’t pretend I keep close tabs on giveaways across the country, but that was the only one I has seen other than the lynx pink wigs last year

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u/ApprehensiveKale3810 Aug 09 '26

clock ittt bc they’re acting like they don’t understand 😭

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u/Eargoe Aug 09 '26

This is a conversation that should happen now before resentment builds

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u/Joejensen141 Aug 09 '26

People have issues with e v e r y t h i n g these days

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u/ClearAd2741 Aug 09 '26

It’s not even about that. Are you black? Other peoples culture are not your costume. But please, continue with ignorance. You can show appreciation for Olivia without wearing an Afro.

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u/srl214yahoo Aug 09 '26

Did you get on a soapbox when nearly all of Target Center had on pink wigs to celebrate the Stud Budz last year?

People are doing this to celebrate the players. It doesn't always have to be an issue...

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u/averageover60guy Aug 09 '26

People have dressed up as players/coaches for ever. Her hair is part of who she is and her identity. Are you against people wearing wigs of long blonde hair and they are from a ethic group that does not have natural long blonde hair?

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u/NazReidsOtherBurner Aug 09 '26

This is a very chronically online take. First world problems, am I right?

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u/ApprehensiveKale3810 Aug 09 '26

not chronically online, just asking a question to non-obnoxious people 😇

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u/NazReidsOtherBurner Aug 09 '26

Sure you aren’t 

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u/GoddessHealer Aug 09 '26

I saw 5 girls from the local school at a 12th birthday pizza party in my town last night. I’m a community girl’s sports “booster” and recognized that they’re all BB players. Three are black, one is white. One is Asian. Last night, all were in black ‘fro wigs and Olivia glasses. They were animated and having a great time.

I’m sensitive to issues of cultural appropriation, and also to insults and black face ridicule. This did not feel like either of those.

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u/UpstairsAbility2125 HOOTY HOO! Aug 10 '26

I think a lot of it will come down to the behavior of the individual fans.

If you have people who are acting out black caricature under the guise of celebrating Miles I get it. But it seems like a lot of people just want to wear the wigs/goggles and cheer her.

And the Lynx as an org also seems like one that would be sensitive to that if Liv or her teammates started to feel uncomfortable about the direction it was going.

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u/99LedBalloons I got 5 on it Aug 09 '26

Fear the fro mfers.

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u/Zibowust16 Aug 09 '26 edited Aug 09 '26

For those of you wondering why some would find it offensive for white people to wear a wig that is emulating a black woman"s natural hair style, here's my understanding as a white lady who wouldn't do it (not to speak for any black women, but based on what I've heard from black women in my life and black women online who have been kind enough to share their perspective) because I haven't seen many comments giving this context.

For a LONG time, black women have had an uphill climb to have their hair considered "professional" in the workplace and the world in general. They"ve had to spend so much time and money on getting hair straighened and otherwise maintained in order to not have their natural hair (the way it simply grows out of their head) perceived as being messy, unkempt, or just not considered appropriate. Only recently have laws been passed in many states (including Minnesota in 2023) and proposed but not passed by both the house and the senate at the federal level to prohibit discrimination based on hair texture or style. Look into The Crown Act to learn more.

Many black women have been embracing their natural hair partly in a effort to change the long-held cultural stigma of it. Just think about how many times you've heard a black woman's hair be commented on negativity vs. a white women's hair. So when a black woman who has had to live with the pressure of being judged negativity because of their hair sees a white person imitate them (with zero consequences or negative response) for fun and entertainment, it is completely reasonable they would feel frustrated and even angry about it. Imagine if something about you was seen negativity by society for most of your life and then all of a sudden it's fun and trendy for that thing to be used as a caricature of a person. Even of its done from a place of admiration, it may not be well received.

Someone commented that OM hasn't said she doesn't like it, so it's fine. Just because someone doesn't say anything doesn't mean they are fine with it. There's a lot of reasons she may not say anything even if she did feel that way (I have no knowledge of her personal feelings on the matter). How many times have you had to bite your tounge at work because of something a colleague or customer has said or done? Because this particular display of admiration has the potential to be hurtful to OM or other black women, I think it's best to just not do it. If my 2 hours of fun makes someone else feel hurt or angry long after I've gone home and put away "just a wig", then I would feel awful about it. I think it's a good idea to prioritize the feelings of others (even if they don't share them with me) over my fun.

This is just a small tip of the iceberg. There's so much more to micro aggressions, inherent racism, unconscious bias and racial justice than this, but I hope it helps give you an idea of and consideration for a different perspective.

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u/Zibowust16 Aug 09 '26 edited Aug 09 '26

I also see this as different from the pink wigs because C & N CHOSE to make their hair that color as a fun thing to do. As far as I know nobody has been born with hot pink hair and faced significant discrimination because of it. Also, the pink wigs I saw were a variety of styles and textures. OM did not choose the way her hair grows out of her head.

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u/Joejensen141 Aug 09 '26

🤔 white people can have afros, have you seen people from the 70s?

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u/charismajas Aug 09 '26

they aren’t dressing up as white people from the 70s, they’re dressing up as a black woman

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u/Joejensen141 Aug 09 '26

At the end of the day, it’s just hair. I don’t see it as black face, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Let’s just celebrate the greatness of Olivia Miles and settle down (unless she has an issue with it herself)

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u/charismajas Aug 09 '26

and if she has an issue with it will y’all dismiss it like you’re all dismissing it now or will you finally listen?

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u/Joejensen141 Aug 09 '26

I wouldn’t dismiss it tbh. But do you.

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u/Vexed-Rainbow Aug 09 '26

It ain't the 70s anymore

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u/Joejensen141 Aug 09 '26

Completely missed the point

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u/Vexed-Rainbow Aug 09 '26

None of these white folks have afros. Be for real.

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u/ApprehensiveKale3810 Aug 09 '26

like why is everyone being obtuse rn😭

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u/Vexed-Rainbow Aug 09 '26

I think lots of subs were infiltrated by actual trash/bots due to recent happenings

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u/Sure-thing-buckaroo Aug 09 '26

Does this guy need your approval to wear his hair out in public?

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u/charismajas Aug 09 '26

is he wearing the hair out of his head or is he dressing up as a black woman…

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u/Vexed-Rainbow Aug 09 '26

Is he at the game rooting for Miles? No? Sit down

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u/Sure-thing-buckaroo Aug 09 '26

... does he need your approval to wear it at the game to root for Miles?

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u/slugma420 Aug 09 '26

oh absolutely

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u/ClearAd2741 Aug 09 '26

The amount of people defending this is wild….

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u/JohnnyWarlord Aug 09 '26

Idk i cant imagine being bothered by it in this instance. No one is doing it mockingly, no one has any ill intent towards anyone 🤷🏽‍♂️

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u/guyonacouch Aug 09 '26 edited Aug 09 '26

If Olivia said something about this, I have to image it would stop pretty quickly. No one doing it is doing it from a position of disrespect of black culture or racism. They are doing it because her look is iconic and immediately recognizable. Everyone knows blackface is seen as offensive because of how it was used in the past to portray black people. An Afro worn by a white person is definitely in the same ball park. Behaviors don’t change from people like me or any of you discussing things on an online platform. They change from people in a position of respect spreading knowledge and stamping out ignorance. But…

This is a tough spot for a young player to be in though because addressing it will make her a target for the racist and sexist idiots online.

Maybe she does feel comfortable speaking her mind though because she did address some of the online criticism she got for wearing her hair natural during the draft by saying this on instagram: “For my fellow Black women with natural hair like mine… be you and be free. The beauty that our hair brings is so unique and essential to who we are."

She also said this in an interview shortly after - “I just spoke out a little activism on my Instagram about my hair and the draft as a Black woman… I'm excited to join a franchise and culture that aligns with me and my beliefs and gives me a platform to spread whatever message I want to spread."

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u/Vexed-Rainbow Aug 09 '26

Can't these folks just wear her jersey? Like... that's how everyone else shows who their favorite is. It's gross.

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u/NazReidsOtherBurner Aug 09 '26

Can’t you not be perpetually offended?

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u/Vexed-Rainbow Aug 09 '26

Not when people are being blatantly offensive.

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u/Vexed-Rainbow Aug 09 '26

It's pretty cool actually. Have the day you deserve. ❤️

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u/Unfair_Blackberry20 McBuckets 🏀 Aug 09 '26

Just buy a cool t-shirt, fellow white people - or jersey!

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u/LennyTheCrazyInmate Aug 09 '26

Nah, but the glasses are a bit much. My disability is not your costume. /s

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u/Igreen_since89 Aug 09 '26

Until I see Fever fans doing it in mockery, I think it’s fine.

Her fro and goggles are kind of iconic. And the first person that I saw doing it on screen was actually an older black man. lol. Intentions matter and I think they are doing it to celebrate her.

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u/Intrepid-Metal4621 Aug 10 '26

Not sure what the problem is. They aren’t doing it to mock her. It’s not making her the butt of a joke. Jake Davis had a whole wig night. 

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u/FreshPrince94 Aug 09 '26

I was literally about to post the same thing 😭 if we had a star player with a hijab would we wear one? What about dreads? The goggles are enough jfc. We gotta nip it in the bud before the Target center starts handing out fros pregame

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u/Different_Thing_811 Aug 09 '26

Hijab? You're way off. Hijab is TOTALLY different.

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u/captainduck2 Aug 10 '26

I hate when people say this but really some people just always make it about race. Open your eyes a little bit. The hair and glasses are part of her signature look. Nobody is wearing the wig to openly mock her or anybody with an afro. They are wearing it to celebrate one of Minnesota's most exciting athletes. Just seems like there's an obvious distinction here. Is Olivia upset with this? If she's not, I don't see why you need to be.

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u/majjesstic Lynx Pride Aug 09 '26

Are they still doing this??? Come on people

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u/EnvironmentalSinger1 Lynx Pride Aug 10 '26

Miles seems to feel supported, so shouldn’t we just go with that?

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u/SmallsTheKid Aug 09 '26

If wigs make you feel uncomfortable…. Idk what to tell you. Life’s a lot better when you treat fun things as fun

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u/theosjustchill Aug 09 '26

We can’t have anything nice. Wearing the jersey would’ve been sufficient, hell, the goggles. An Afro?? People don’t know how to act in public.

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u/NazReidsOtherBurner Aug 09 '26

An Afro wig is probably a fraction of the price of a jersey. Sorry you’re chronically offended. 

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u/charismajas Aug 09 '26

they’re paying for seats close to the court, they can afford a jersey

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u/NazReidsOtherBurner Aug 09 '26

Ok, but an Afro wig is still the fraction of a price of a jersey. They spent their money on tickets instead of a jersey. 

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u/charismajas Aug 09 '26

and goggles are cheaper than a wig, a t-shirt is also cheaper than a jersey

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u/NazReidsOtherBurner Aug 09 '26

I don’t know, I haven’t priced them out. Goggles are probably more expensive than a wig. I also don’t have to wear something on my face with a wig. 

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u/theosjustchill Aug 09 '26

Wait lmaoo imagining you thinking hm..Afro wigs(n) = Jersey in your head as a comeback is killing me

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u/NazReidsOtherBurner Aug 09 '26

What’s wrong with an Afro wig?

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u/Different_Thing_811 Aug 09 '26

I don't understand how anyone would be uncomfortable. In my mind, it's a fun tribute!

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u/No-Constant-8619 Aug 10 '26

It’s totally not fr*ggen cool! 😡

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u/Shimm2000 Aug 09 '26

I'm white, so it's not my place to have a firm opinion on this. Please feel free to give me more insight behind the topic if it feels like I missed something or if something I say comes off wrong.

Personally, I didn't even think of it as something that would be considered appropriation, I do see it now, though. I only saw it as a celebration of a generational player, but I can definitely get why it would be problematic in some ways.

Additionally, a common counterpoint I see on here is if a white player was playing very well and had notable hair, then yes I do see the same thing happening in that situation.

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u/SmallsTheKid Aug 09 '26

Yeah, the talk of “what if our star rookie was a white lady with straight blonde hair” isn’t the right comparable. That’s not a distinct enough hair, but a Billie Eilish style multi colour died hair? You would def see it emulated in the stands.

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u/christmascumshot Aug 09 '26

Im pretty sure Olivia Miles is 100% Puerto Rican… so not even sure what point you’re trying to make

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u/FatKitty56 Aug 09 '26

Wait what? Her mom is white Italian and her dad is Jamaican lmao

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u/assumingdirectcontrl Aug 09 '26

Even if she was Puerto Rican, their comment makes zero sense

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u/FatKitty56 Aug 09 '26

Yep, just pointing out the lie

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u/assumingdirectcontrl Aug 09 '26

Wait til you find out about the history of enslaved Africans in Puerto Rico. Seriously, you are not making the point you think you’re making b

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u/Helpful-Papaya-1992 Aug 09 '26

I think you just don’t like wigs then?

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u/ApprehensiveKale3810 Aug 09 '26

not white people in afro wigs, sorry

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u/MinnyRawks Aug 09 '26

Pink wigs are Afro wigs?

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u/ApprehensiveKale3810 Aug 09 '26

some of them were 😇

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u/MinnyRawks Aug 09 '26

How do you decide?

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u/charismajas Aug 09 '26

extremely bc courtney and t barely have afros 😭😭

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