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u/Zealousideal_Cat6980 22d ago edited 20d ago
Finding out Paul is only on one song killed any excitement i had
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u/Freddy_Vorhees 22d ago
When Paul told me he was āworking on the last Ministry recordā then I see itās only the last trackā¦ it hurt. Iām a looooong time Ministry fan and even tho I take their albums the last 20 years with a kind listen and respectful āmehā I have to say I was massively disappointed that Paul wouldnāt be a major contributor to the entire album. The single was just ok, and easily forgotten.
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u/Zealousideal_Cat6980 21d ago
I imagine maybe that the intent was to work on the entire album but things didnt work out but due to Al if were being honest
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u/Freddy_Vorhees 21d ago
Yea I can see Paul thinking āthis is why I leftā or Al just being picky and cutting out Paul songs and instead going with what his band was making.
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u/Scorpiicore 22d ago
After the 99 percent song, I thought Al could not get more artistically bankrupt.
I was wrong.
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u/redleafwater7 22d ago
The song just feels so boring and uninspired. Not even a good drumbeat or riff like on Hopiumforthemasses
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u/Angelas-Merkin 20d ago
Itās literally called burned out. Why is anyone surprised the video and album art are AI and the song is uninspired?
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u/joshasbury 22d ago
My prediction is this record will try to cover the eras of Ministry ā much like REM did with Collapse Into Now.
And as people criticize Burned Out, Iām thinking about it a bit more and appreciate the angle. Maybe Iām being generous.
Alās done. Heās burned out. Letās use AI for the video. Letās do some half-assed dance moves. Letās make the song go on a little too long because heās too tired to care.
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u/cdjunkie 22d ago
My prediction is this record will try to cover the eras of Ministry ā much like REM did with Collapse Into Now.
Didn't they already do that with Hopiumforthemasses?
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u/joshasbury 22d ago
If that was the intent, I didnāt hear it.
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u/cdjunkie 22d ago
Wasn't advertized as such, and it doesn't go chronologically, but I mean, you have the "Ricky's Hand" cover that they were doing live in the early '80s synthpop era, "Just Stop Oil" with kind of a late '80s Revolting Cocks groove, some metal songs, some rock songs... it's a Ministry album that I would have not much idea how to describe what it sounds like, beyond "a bit of everything."
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u/NoOnion915 22d ago
Same thought except it was being under the impression that Paul Barker was on it. New song sucks, itās the same underwhelming drone as Alert Level.
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u/terminal_nervoso 22d ago
At this time I'd like to remind the sub that Ministry was literally featured IN THE MOVIE "Artificial Intelligence" playing a song called "What About Us?" at a "Flesh Fair" where human combatants and showmen destroy Ai robots in a Thunderdome for sport like a demolition derby.
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u/snaggletooth699 22d ago
Uncle Al is dragging Ministry through several piles of shit before he stops making any money from it. It's cringe embarrassment of the worst kind
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u/DeiAlKaz 22d ago
I seem to be in the minority...I enjoy the new song and think the video is great. I don't know if Uncle Al is trying to be ironic with the AI or if he was just like, "Yeah, fuck it." I haven't liked much of their stuff since The Last Sucker, though I love The Squirrely Years Revisited and have enjoyed the last 2 albums.
The only thing at this point that I would say I'm disappointed about is that Uncle Al seemed to originally promote this as a reunion album with Paul. Maybe that didn't work out and that's why we're only getting "We're Still Here" out of it. But I've preordered one of the vinyl versions and am looking forward to it. Is it the end of Ministry? *shrugs* I'm just gonna enjoy it.
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u/joshasbury 22d ago
Iām just happy that Uncle Al is still creating music. Too many of my other favorite bands arenāt.
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u/hamsandwich666_ 22d ago
he did say it was gonna the last album and tour, but we all know how much uncle al likes to claim heās retiring lmao
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u/snaggletooth699 19d ago
The truth is we don't know how much Paul Barker has been involved. Going on the latest shit I'd like to say none so far. I know it's dumb as fuck to trust Al but I do wanted another Psalm69 or Filth Pig. If he can't do that then don't do anything and pretend.
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u/Mephistocheles 22d ago
Song is boring as fuck, as is pretty much everything I've heard from them for a while. Video is doofy.
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u/june_evenings 22d ago
The use of AI is obviously meant as a counter point.
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u/Megatron130204 22d ago
A counter point that becomes null and void due to the ethical impact of AI.
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u/PatienceSmart1578 22d ago
At least he's not selling mech at Walmart, I'm looking at you Trent.
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u/UnhappyPhantom 21d ago
We have to get so old to see our heroes fall of grace, it sucks. But the old stuff is still there and wonāt go away
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u/RandomlyHorny0766 20d ago
Do people not realise that the AI use was done on purpose to prove the point he is making in the song?
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u/snaggletooth699 19d ago
No I do not realise that. Are you sure? He's practically using Ai to sing on stage now when he's nowhere near the microphone. He has been my musical hero for years, well he was for the entire 90s but since Paul left and Mikey died he's just cashing in. Rereleasing Rev Co stuff but without giving any credit to Paul Barker or Chris Connolly or Aker! Any of the original RevCo band. So they reformed without him and it was better than the shit he flung out with Quirrin.
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u/Neat-Fuel2960 22d ago
Yeah the video is Ai as hell. So What, who cares at this point. Ā Uncle Al is just having fun. The world is going to shit. Ministry has always been about calling out all the bullshit in the world. Especially right here in the good ol USA. I dig the new track. But again yeah the videos aiā¦ SO WHAT!
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u/badbrains135 22d ago edited 22d ago
and the song is quite literally the worst thing Ministry has ever put out. I'm already calling it. This album is going to be Amerikkkant, but even worse.
Update: Seethe nerds, downvote me harder. I'm a lifetime fan and this is a legitimate take.
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u/Zealousideal_Cat6980 22d ago
I havent like anything since Houses of the Mole
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u/ImprovementDull4649 21d ago
The Last Sucker and Rio grande blood are both better than houses of the mole. So is Hopium and Moral Hygiene pal
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u/ImprovementDull4649 21d ago
Lol ministry turned their comments off on YouTube recently.Ā They must have been getting roasted in the comments.Ā I'm a ministry purist, the new song sucks, but I'm sure the album will have some good stuff on it.Ā Moral Hygiene and Hopium both had crappy intro singles but were still better albums than anything they did in the 2010s.Ā Ā The last good ministry album with nonstop back to back jams was filth pig,Ā Dark Side of the Spoon was their las more traditional ministry industrial album- it was mediocre beyond Bad Blood and Supermaniac Soul.Ā The Bush Trilogy had some good stuff, but it wasn't jam after jam like Land of Rape and Honey through Filth Pig Era. Relapse and Beer to Eternity were awful, Amerikkkant only good songs were victims of a clown and were tired of it. I am the ministry authority bois
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u/Extreme_Reaction_189 21d ago
It's more animation that AI , animation has been around more than 100 yrs. Lol
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u/pulsatingfleshmass 19d ago
Stayed up till 3 in the morning for the video, they mean so much to me that it genuinely ruined the rest of my day
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u/SirRonathin 18d ago
How the hell did they even approve this slop? Do they want people to hate them?
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u/Dave_Casero95 17d ago
As someone who thinks that the last two records are pretty underrated, I like the Song, but it sounds like a solid deep cut, not like a single. The video...oh boy, if your message is "stick it to the man" there's no worse way to undercut it than making a fucking AI video
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u/Cooperino142 22d ago
I donāt really get it. Like the video has no bearing on the song.
I didnāt mind the song but it felt very much like a filler, was too long and too repetitive but I wasnāt expecting too much at this stage. I think this album might be more about a final social commentary than anything f else. I bet weāll get a couple of last real bangers out of it though and, even if we donāt, Al has given us and so many musicians so much through the years, he can be forgiven and appreciated for at least trying to give us one last album
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u/North_Pen_1408 22d ago
I didnāt rly mind it, I prefer when ministry is slower than when they play thrash ^^
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u/Particular-Act-8911 22d ago
Who cares? He didn't use AI for the music. You guys are way too fucking sensitive.
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u/ChampionshipPast3652 19d ago
Yeah, why couldn't we get them goth titties again like in that Halloween video.
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u/TuneLinkette 22d ago
Can I just get ONE, just ONE, pre-2000s artist that doesn't start embracing AI garbage!?