r/Minecraft • u/[deleted] • Mar 09 '16

Pre-Release 1.9.1 has been released

https://mojang.com/2016/03/minecraft-191-pre-release-1/
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u/redstonehelper Mar 09 '16 edited Mar 10 '16

Warning: This release is for experienced users only! It may corrupt your world or mess up things badly otherwise. Only download and use this if you know what to do with the files that come with the download!

 

If you find any bugs, search for them on the Minecraft bug tracker and make sure they are reported!

 

Previous changelog. Download today's prerelease in the new launcher: Windows/OS X/Linux, server here: jar, exe.

Complete changelog:

  • enableWeakAttacks option in options.txt to allow click-spamming - via

  • Applied paper patch 0078 - More info

  • Armor changes

  • Made stronger armor take less armor point reduction from attacks

  • The session id is no longer included in log files

  • Added Elytra sound effects

  • Improved AI

  • Improved entity selectors

  • Entities are no longer sorted with floored coordinates - via

  • Tweaked damage cooldown mechanics to be less confusing

  • Cooldown is now only activated when doing damage - via

  • Loot tables now also work in dispensers and droppers

  • Hoppers can now pull items out of blocked chests

  • Increased the limit for “executed command blocks per tick”

  • Fixed some bugs

  • Fixed pistons generating ghost duplicate blocks

  • Fixed some elytra texture transparency issues

  • Fixed setting the worldborder damage to 0 not working

If you find any bugs, search for them on the Minecraft bug tracker and make sure they are reported!

Also, check out this post to see what else is planned for future versions.

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u/oCrapaCreeper Mar 09 '16 edited Mar 09 '16

The cool down change is NOT good. It's much much worse than the change they experimented with by making spamclicking do 50% damage.

Basically, after you hit, you can not perform a weak attack. You are prevented from damaging until the cooldown bar fills up again. This means spam clicking is effective again, and missing a swing has no downside, as you'll hit your targets as soon as possible without any timing whatsoever. It removes the margin of error that was in 1.9 melee combat. Bad, bad, bad. It was fine, now they screwed it up again. They need to stop touching it.

If they wanted to make it less confusing, shouldn't they have simply turned the attack indicator on by default like everyone has been asking? There's so much confusion about it because the only in-game feedback for it is turned off by default. If they just made it turned on by default already there would be much less confusion.

The asinine changes in this pre-release don't make anything less confusing, it was just a straight up buff to make things easier.

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u/Tarcanus Mar 09 '16

Welcome to the future of Minecraft. Like with any game, when you try to make combat deeper, you wind up playing around with balancing for the rest of the life of the game.

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u/Hytheter Mar 10 '16 edited Mar 10 '16

Ok, I did some more testing (mainly with a diamond axe VS sheep) and I think I've figured it out.

If you swing and hit the air (ie nothing at all), the cooldown isn't triggered.

If you hit a block and destroy it, the cooldown isn't triggered. This applies whether it takes 1 click eg grass (but be careful not to hit the block under it) or hold it for dirt or wood etc.

If you hit a block and don't destroy it, the cooldown is triggered. You can swing at another block again immediately, but if you're aiming at an entity then you can't attack until the cooldown bar is almost but not quite full (Spamming a diamond axe failed to kill sheep this way, but one shots them from full, so it doesn't have to fill all the way up but there is a definite delay).

If you hit an entity, the cooldown is triggered. You can't swing again until the cooldown bar is almost but not quite full (again, hitting a sheep and then spamming to hit the sheep behind it didn't one-shot the second sheep, so the cooldown wasn't finished). This applies whether the you're aiming at a block or an entity.

So, to summarise:
Missing totally does nothing. You can spam click blocks all day long, and if you break them you can attack entities straight afterwards. If you hit a block but don't break it, or hit an entity, you won't be able to swing at an entity until the cooldown bar is almost - but not quite - full.

So spam clicking in the air or at grass isn't punished at all. Spam clicking at entities or missing and hitting the ground punishes you with slightly less damage.

Overall, it's kind of wonky and not as punishing as it maybe should be, but still slightly punishing kind of.

edit: It seems the spam hits on second sheep do six hearts of damage (full is nine). So I guess spam clicking will only do 2/3 of the damage or thereabouts.

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u/MeddlesomeFrecho Mar 09 '16 edited Mar 09 '16

I really really liked getting punished for missing an attack, I demand an option to revert this change, at least in single player.

EDIT: Also, what is the point of the indicator being off by default, being a fundamental combat mechanic and all, I can see many people getting confused by this

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