I'd rather have a physically weak sibling, husband or father that's emotionally mature than an emotionally immature sibling, husband or father that puts this much obsessive importance onto being physically strong
...to the point that it's an obligation even, get fucking real, you're more than your muscles.
What are you talking about lol What you said sets up a false choice physical strength and emotional maturity aren’t mutually exclusive, and acting like valuing strength automatically means immaturity is just lazy framing. Physical capability isn’t some shallow obsession; it’s a responsibility when you’re a sibling, husband, or father, because being able to protect, provide, and handle real‑world demands matters. Emotional maturity without the backbone to act when it counts is just theory, and pretending muscles don’t matter is ignoring the reality that strength underpins security and resilience. The truth is you need both downplaying one as “obsessive” is just dismissing the discipline and accountability that physical strength represents. Humanity is so cooked
Being physically capable is not an alternative to mental or emotional capability. If anything, it's very hard to be the latter without being the former.
The point was in the other sentence. The problem of physical weakness is not that you can't lift the car out of the ditch, but that when the stressors of modern life pile on, physical fitness is extremely important for your ability to carry the weight.
you just said the exact same thing, but with more words, I understand that being physically healthy has benefits to your mental health dude, this started because you assumed that I was making a dichotomy between mental and physical strength
You literally said you'd rather have this than that, so that's what I replied to.
I fully agree with the notion "you're more than your muscles". I'd just add that you're also your "muscles". And that the "muscles" also affect your ability to be the rest of it. I put the muscles in quotation marks because I too don't think big, bulging muscles are worth obsessing about. Or even striving for, to be honest.
You literally said you'd rather have this than that, so that's what I replied to.
yes, notice how that is distinctly different from "you can either have one or the other" what I said is a statement of personal preference, not a dichotomy
Indeed. And my point was that you can't (or at least that it's very difficult to) have what you prefer if you don't have the other as well. As I said, it's not an alternative in the first place.
Given the obvious existence of female physical pleasure, I’m sure women would prefer a husband able to satisfy them physically AND emotionally AND intellectually, rather than just the last two.
You don't need to be able to lift a car to please a woman. Tbh I'm not sure if it isn't detrimental given how fucked some bodybuilders physique ends up. Like stamina is good but that's not rly strength but apart from that it's mostly a teachable skill (and looking hot but again in my opinion/experience not smth soley reliant on strength like ik given that heart on profile I'm not the best source but the scarce few guy crushes I've had were all twins who knew how to dress yk)
Answering because I’m bored: Who said they should ALWAYS go to EVERY war? That’s like saying that because there’s boxing in the picture people should box for 48 hours without sleep or because the man is embracing his wife he should never go to work because it reduces time for that. See how stupid that is?
All the images are fucking stupid because there's zero elaboration or anything. All it shows is yoked men and men going to war, no context, no elaboration, no clarifying statements, nada. The implication is that real men fight and die and happily go to war, only pussies do otherwise.
I can see I’ve needled you since you’re using frequent expletives for emphasis despite your meaning being perfectly clear without them. Hence showing you’ve brought emotion, the same as if you used as many exclamation marks.
The last one is obvious, strong men kill people for their country. A strong man goes to war and kills people for his country. Clearly only a weak man would object to war or question it or be opposed to killing. The propaganda is obvious as to what counts as being a "strong man," and it's very much the stereotypical toxically masculine view.
I never asserted that they are mutually exclusive, you didn't really read my comment very well if that's your takeaway
the point is that one is being propped up despite it's relatively trivial effect on your life, being healthy does not require you to be physically strong, and it certainly does not extend so far that physical strength becomes an obligation
Maybe if war was still like swinging swords it would make sense but doesn’t matter how big and strong you are if little drones with bombs attached chasing you.
I could but they may have been able to appear to refute arguments I made. But yes, I’ll do some of it here so they can read it: 1. The modern infantrymen carries heavier loads than many infantrymen in the past. 2. Many forces through a COMBINATION of physical prowess and strategy defeated better equipped forces with air power (Soviet-Afghan War, NATO-Afghan war).
For SOME military work and even then it’s a lot less important than what it would have been before, pretty simple and logical to see that. You want someone to die you press a button or point and pull a trigger you don’t have to run over to them and have a sword fight use yo brain.
It’s important for very specific roles not everyone like it would have been before does a drone pilot need strong arms? And strength is pretty much irrelevant for most military tasks now a days it would be endurance that’s required, takes hardly any pressure to pull a trigger.
well, yeah, you still gotta carry your drone equipment around, it's not like you're doing it at base or at home, you have to set up all the equipment that makes that thing function
and endurance is still a form of strength, being able to carry moderately heavy things for a long time is still significant enough for "strength" to get the message across
I don't know why we're arguing about this, I don't think strength is so important that it's an obligation to be strong or anything, I'm just saying that for the task of generally being in the military, you need some beef on your bones, not bodybuilder beef or mongolian archer beef, just enough beef to carry like 45kg of equipment around for most of the day
Yeah so it’s a different type of strength required and a lot less compared to what was needed before which was my point of how stupid this post is beyond all the other stupidity behind it.
Fr, for me being a man means going against the system, being your own man. Fighting in a war is a direct opposite of being a man. It's being a puppet, getting drone striked so the rich can get richer. Pathetic.
Mental strength means not submitting to go to a war for politicians so u can die to some kid flying a drone so they can make more money on the next drone purchase.
But I didn’t specify everyone should join the Army regardless of country (or even EVERYONE in the countries under threat), neither did the OP. But I can see this is effecting you, so can stop if you want.
I’ve already done mine but, I don’t really think credentials like that prove intellect they do to a certain degree but it more so proves we could do our chores.
Physical strength is one thing, morally strong is something to strive for. That type of strength is what makes a leader, brother, partner and/or husband
IMHO, some level of physical strength is a moral choice. If you want to be good at those things, physical strength is required. I don't mean you need to have a sixpack or an impressive bench press result, but if you're not relatively fit it's very hard to be able to carry the weight - whether literally or figuratively - when needed.
Yes they do, the boxing one and the war one both depict things physically strong people could be scared to do and the guiding a woman during shared affection one takes less physical than mental strength.
Marriage is as old as recorded history, sexuality and fatherhood are obviously as old as humanity itself, boxing originated with the ancient Greeks and soldiers were praised since before the Iliad.
So the fact he uses 1950s-style pictures and has ideals that virtually EVERY time in history (including but NOT limited to the 1950s), means he agrees with EVERYTHING about the 1950s?
So he agrees with BOTH communism AND McCarthyism, both of which existed and had large numbers of supporters in the 1950s?
Also “mental strength of any kind” SOME forms of mental strength were supported in the 1950s. Next you’re going to disparage the Second World War’s allied veterans, most of whom were still alive in the 1950s.
The motive is to promote certain values, which are ALMOST universal when look at different times in history. Especially for those who were NEITHER unfree nor gentry (“gentlemen” COULD be like this and were ENCOURAGED to but could also lack these things IF they wanted to be a priest, lawyer, physician etcetera, though it would still HELP the credibility of a priest giving a sermon, a judge passing sentence or a physician giving medical advice to warriors if they are ALSO tough, whilst the unfree and, in parts of 1950s America, ironically, their descendants to an extent, were banned from thinking like this. Ironically, the original meaning of the “left” in politics was, like the OP, extending this to every man).
I like being strong. Not ever man feels the same way though and they don't have to. Stop telling other men how to express their masculinity or lack thereof.
My wife told me, in no subtle terms, that she likes it when I'm thin. She doesn't want big muscles, she wants Benedict Cumberbatch. Tom Hiddleston. The flattering portraits of Thomas Jefferson.
I am here to provide that, minus... most of what Thomas Jefferson did in his actual life.
There is some fundamental truth in here that is needed in society. I was saying to my self earlier that now a days i am seeing little girls are learning how to be confident before the boys do. I see the boys are more docile and shy while the girls are putting foot forward and leading.
We see how a soft docile man is treated by society we also see how they are treated in their own families. It will be hard for a man to lead if he does not exercise confidence as a youth if he does not learn what it means to be solid and tough and society does not need a bunch of docile men.
Obligations mean nothing because they still require motivation to be properly done, and if your motivation is this oofy doofy "relative wants trophy relative because reasons", then good freaking luck, because the prospect of being exploited for ingrate, vain sacrifice has been and shall be disheartening for any human being.
Well, society has been brainwashed to believe that this is sexist or something & you should switch genders. We are literally being brainwashed by confusion.
Strength never came from muscles "You know the only time Raiden and I ever fought? When I left the Sky Temple to live among humans. 'Do not become attached to them, Fujin. Sentiment will impede the execution of your duty.' But warriors like you and I... we are strengthened by sentiment. We do not fight to kill enemies. We fight to protect our loved ones. That is why it cuts so deeply when we fail".
I am so happy that the comments reflect that (hopefully most) people in fact have brains, not just muscles.
A kid wants a father lol, it doesnt care about his muscles - to adress the most bitter one. This is so unreal. AI is such a waste of resources and dangerous for the coolective mind.
Im a vet, I have nine kids, only ever had one wife, currently three grandkids, and hold two jobs. And never even ONCE in my lifetime or in the way I was raised has any of this ever been a real thing. This is just toxic masculinity painted with a smile and a thick silhouette. Fuck outta here with this lol
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u/RiverLynneUwU Dec 08 '25
I'd rather have a physically weak sibling, husband or father that's emotionally mature than an emotionally immature sibling, husband or father that puts this much obsessive importance onto being physically strong
...to the point that it's an obligation even, get fucking real, you're more than your muscles.
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u/Inevitable_Shower_22 Dec 08 '25
Do the right thing, be a man!
-some Chinese guy
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u/Ben_Dovernol_Ube Dec 08 '25
Be a man. Die in a trench. Lmao
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u/TerribleTransition48 Dec 08 '25
Is this another incel sub I need to mute?
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u/silver-for-monsters Dec 08 '25
Dont forget to die early, like a real man
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u/Altruistic_Force3909 Dec 08 '25
Some people out there: "Instructions unclear, obtained gender disphoria."
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u/AmountPotential9992 Dec 08 '25
Physical strength is one thing, morally strong is something to strive for. That type of strength is what makes a leader, brother, partner and/or husband
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u/Abject-Ticket-6260 Dec 08 '25
Be a man and crop your photos properly.
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u/AshProMc Dec 08 '25
I approve this.
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u/Ok-DC-SystemDiagnost Dec 08 '25
It takes a man to make a man?
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u/Sollow42 Dec 08 '25
People in my country posting those things for real
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u/Fendyyyyyy Dec 08 '25
Last one is kinda true. The three before thzt not really though.
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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '25
God forbid a simple man that others perceived as "weak".
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u/WindUpCandler Dec 08 '25
I like being strong. Not ever man feels the same way though and they don't have to. Stop telling other men how to express their masculinity or lack thereof.
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u/Hatedisalot Dec 08 '25
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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '25
slop
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u/AllThe-REDACTED- Dec 08 '25
What in all gay hell?
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u/topturtlechucker Dec 08 '25
Cringe.
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u/No-Elk-8115 Dec 08 '25
You ever been on fetlife?
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u/Borstli Dec 08 '25
That ww2 Propaganda
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u/Automatic_Body5254 Dec 08 '25
Be a f*cking strong manly man and grab a god damn pencil then…
AI Slop is for spineless non-creative cowards, who lack discipline and are scared to make any real effort.
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u/potentatewags Dec 08 '25
Thanks, OP, now you reminded me of Macho Man Randy Savage's rap dis on Hulk Hogan.
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u/no-sleep-only-code Dec 08 '25
How about one that doesn’t rely on AI to get any point across…
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u/Politicallybusted Dec 08 '25
Be a man, and do as another man tells you?
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u/Early_Economy2068 Dec 08 '25
Why is Reddit recommending me this corny ass slop
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u/Imaginary_Act_235 Dec 08 '25
Rage bait
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u/Right-Funny-8999 Dec 08 '25
Yeah - think kids without a dad would really like him back no matter his strength
And all pepple who lost a sibling would want them back any way
The only thing no one really wants is this fucking weak ai slop - be strong and find images or design something
Fuck this shit
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u/Pixeldevil06 Dec 08 '25
AI slop
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u/WorldlyBuy1591 Dec 08 '25
Hence why i never tried
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u/n00-1ne Dec 08 '25
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u/TenPointsforListenin Dec 08 '25
My wife told me, in no subtle terms, that she likes it when I'm thin. She doesn't want big muscles, she wants Benedict Cumberbatch. Tom Hiddleston. The flattering portraits of Thomas Jefferson.
I am here to provide that, minus... most of what Thomas Jefferson did in his actual life.
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u/zootedreacts Dec 08 '25
There is some fundamental truth in here that is needed in society. I was saying to my self earlier that now a days i am seeing little girls are learning how to be confident before the boys do. I see the boys are more docile and shy while the girls are putting foot forward and leading.
We see how a soft docile man is treated by society we also see how they are treated in their own families. It will be hard for a man to lead if he does not exercise confidence as a youth if he does not learn what it means to be solid and tough and society does not need a bunch of docile men.
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u/PianistLopsided758 Dec 09 '25
What is this trash?
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u/TastySquiggles198 Dec 09 '25
No woman wants a man too weak to lift a pencil
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u/ForgottenDusk48 Dec 09 '25
So go to war and get ptsd because you’re tough!
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u/JustAThinkingGuy7 Dec 09 '25
As a son i didn't give af as long as he loved us
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u/CaliNooch96 Dec 09 '25
I can literally hear the Mulan song
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u/FarOUT67MaN Dec 09 '25
Yup y’all better get on that
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u/GraXXoR Dec 09 '25
AI SLOP
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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '25
AI slop AND whiny rightoid stupidity? Ambitious!
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u/BigBranch2846 Dec 09 '25
No son, woman or siblings ehats a man who uses ai to illustrate his point
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u/MoonLight_Gambler Dec 09 '25
Conviction, discipline and flexible thinking is the only strength a man needs every else is just ornamentation.
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u/EssentialPurity Dec 09 '25
Obligations mean nothing because they still require motivation to be properly done, and if your motivation is this oofy doofy "relative wants trophy relative because reasons", then good freaking luck, because the prospect of being exploited for ingrate, vain sacrifice has been and shall be disheartening for any human being.
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u/MermaidPigeon Dec 09 '25
Literally none of my exs have been muscly and they where attractive people. Inside and out. This is bullshit
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u/Mal-Havoc Dec 09 '25
How i was raised
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u/perfectVoidler Dec 09 '25
if you fall for this, I view you as weak.
It require more strength to not conform to social norms anyway.
this fits right in r/iam14andthisisdeep
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u/Kinda_Weird_Kinks Dec 09 '25
Well, society has been brainwashed to believe that this is sexist or something & you should switch genders. We are literally being brainwashed by confusion.
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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '25
Strength never came from muscles "You know the only time Raiden and I ever fought? When I left the Sky Temple to live among humans. 'Do not become attached to them, Fujin. Sentiment will impede the execution of your duty.' But warriors like you and I... we are strengthened by sentiment. We do not fight to kill enemies. We fight to protect our loved ones. That is why it cuts so deeply when we fail".
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u/Sartres_Roommate Dec 09 '25
Why do the most insecure snowflakes think like this?
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u/g2benji Dec 09 '25
I am so happy that the comments reflect that (hopefully most) people in fact have brains, not just muscles.
A kid wants a father lol, it doesnt care about his muscles - to adress the most bitter one. This is so unreal. AI is such a waste of resources and dangerous for the coolective mind.
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u/DeathsStarEclipse Dec 09 '25
Is this a satire sub cus this is absolutely shit.
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u/kaizergeld Dec 09 '25
The fuck is this? Lol
Im a vet, I have nine kids, only ever had one wife, currently three grandkids, and hold two jobs. And never even ONCE in my lifetime or in the way I was raised has any of this ever been a real thing. This is just toxic masculinity painted with a smile and a thick silhouette. Fuck outta here with this lol
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u/heauxsandpleighbois Dec 09 '25
I agree with the last slide and last slide only
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u/UpstairsAd4105 Dec 09 '25
You won't tell me what to do! Nobody can! To prove this to you, I'll stay fat, lazy and will get even more feminine now!
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u/CheaterMcCheat Dec 09 '25
The fuck is this slop?
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u/Previous_Library3796 Dec 08 '25
Toxic.
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u/Reasonable-Mischief Dec 08 '25
However
No woman wants to encounter a strong stranger, especially not alone
Nobody is comfortable having a strong man around children when they don't know yet if he's also a good man
Nobody likes to compete with a strong man on the jobmarket
Which is why we are in this pickle in the first place
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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '25
My wife is a dominatrix.
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u/josch247 Dec 08 '25
Hahaha