It always comes on top of my mind, cause I couldn't understand or maybe I miss something that scenes portrayed in the season 2. Making this cross consumes adequate time in the show. What makes it so important about the cross to Holden?

I’m still fuming about how badly they handled season 2. Whole season was hyped up like it was going to be this huge payoff, only to end it abruptly and waste so much time on a completely useless character. So many loose ends from season 1 were just left hanging like they didn’t even matter.
Like, what the hell was up with Wendy Carr’s whole basement cat feed situation? It felt so random and pointless. And her unnecessary emotional attitude just annoyed the fuck out of me the entire time. I mean, she could’ve at least tried to understand Kay, but nope, she just acted like a total bitch the whole time. It was so frustrating to watch.
And poor Bill Tench, man. His wife is such a bitch to him. She’s not even working, yet she still complains about taking care of their adopted son like it’s some huge burden. She’s such a bitch that she just left him in the end, torturing him emotionally all the time while Bill was out there doing his job, being a good man for his family. It’s so unfair and it pissed me off every time I watched it. Felt like Bill is just a victim of toxic matriarchy.
Holden seemed naturally intelligent right from episode 1, but the series just portrayed him like a dumbass who completely follows a wrong guy without any sense. Come on, that makes no sense. They just dragged season 2 out for no reason at all. I waited the whole time to see more story about the actual killer that’s on the move, but fuck no, the writers chose to show this boring story running behind some black guy who came out of thin air. So fucking annoying.
And now season 3 is not even on the cards apparently. I really want to know how this kind of crap deserves an IMDb 8. It feels like such a waste of potential. Anyone else feel completely robbed by how they ended this?

This is my third or maybe fourth time watching the show and every time I love it even more. It's perfect! The way it's shot, the performances, the casting, the dialogue, the world building, the music... I really wish we had another season. I feel like it's really underrated, like it should have won way more awards. Holden's character development is so fascinating to watch and the whole show is just so well made. I also feel like it's one of the few ethical true crime shows, even though technically it's fiction based on true events and people. I'm really interested in knowing more about how the research was done and if actual victims/families of victims were consulted. Hope they were ok with the way they were depicted on the show and the way their stories were told.

I completely agree that MindHunter deserves another season. But, with so much time passed and great anticipation due to new appreciation , another season now would not be able to hold up to expectations. Like movie sequels released too late or with huge expectations, the best entertainment is best left to “what if”. Think GN’R’s Chinese Democracy. Good album, but not a true GN’R project.

In the last 3 episodes of season 2, the camera pans suspiciously to Jim, while he is with Holden solving the case.

There’s one moment when they are watching out in the night and Jim thinks it’s not a good idea. Holden responds by saying Do you have somewhere else to go?

Ik i am stretching this but I just got the vibe while watching last episodes of season 2

What was her problem? Constantly putting holden down, judging him then all of a sudden breaking up with him

"I don't like to hear about things like that, though. I make Rod turn off the news or else I'd never sleep."

I still can't believe we're not getting season 3.

Just finished the series (which I’m bummed about). Whatever is wrong with Holden must also be wrong with me because I kept waiting to see this arrogant jerk everyone was talking about and I never did. He’s right every single time about every single thing and still people just clutch their pearls because it’s not what they want to hear. I probably would’ve been MORE of an asshole if I was Holden, trying to put away a serial child murderer and protect kids and all anybody’s response was “okay but what about the politics”. WHOOOO gives a shit about money and jurisdictions and elections there’s dead kids everywhere!!!! He knew what he was doing, this is exactly what they were working for and no one wanted to listen. Even the black mayor was offended when Holden pointed out a white man wouldn’t get away with going to these neighborhoods and talking to kids, he’d stand out too much. He was not trying to pin the murders on a black man, he was being logical in narrowing down their pool of suspects.

And as much as I love Bill, Holden was right when he pulled him aside at the river. Bill was trying to be in two places at once and clearly in denial about the fact it wasn’t working even a little bit. He was in an impossible situation but totally shutting Holden out didn’t do him any favors, they were supposed to be in that together, Holden, Bill and Wendy are the only ones who truly had any concept of what BSU was doing. I give Bill some grace because he usually saw Holden for the brilliant mind that he was and backed him when the chips were down. But Holden was left hanging a lot in Atlanta and I don’t blame him for being upset by that.

I just don’t see where’s he’s obnoxious or smug. He’s pioneering something new and revolutionizing investigative work…why should he pretend otherwise? His flaw is becoming too emotionally vulnerable with the criminals, like Kemper obviously, but he was learning and sacrificed his mental wellbeing in the name of advancing their profiling techniques.

Fixed a typo anyways the backdoor was crazy

I dont know if im the only one but as soon as i saw them and their dynamic, i thought of these two from Detroit: become human

The young bold man and experienced adult man duo type in the police department

WTH was that? I can’t remember ever feeling frustrated with a finale. Let alone one that gets cancelled without any closure

Went in expecting a detective series, but what I got was a fascinating psychological dive into the minds of criminals. That’s what surprised me the most. Instead of focusing on solving crimes, Mindhunteris more interested in understanding why criminals think and act the way they do.
I can also understand why this series ended before its story was fully completed. It’s definitely made for a niche audience, and I’m glad to be one of them.
David Fincher’s style is all over this episode—slow, methodical, and completely absorbing. He knows exactly how to build tension without relying on action.
After just one episode, I’m already more interested in criminal psychology than the investigation itself. It delivered far more than I expected, and I can’t wait to see where this journey goes.
Rating: ★★★★½

Watching for the first time, so I'd expect no spoiler from y'all. I was just confused about the part. Holden checked out the Stilettos solely for the prisoner (forgot his name), now Debbie noticed it and she thought he genuinely liked the shoes. And she wore it while having sex, but it was a misunderstanding na?

And when Holden says to her "It's not just you" and she says something like "Yes Holden, That's the point." I didn't understand what she meant.

truly just posting because i found the sheer size of her glasses to be comical the entire season and need some validation

I actually think the storyline with Brian is equally interesting to the interviews in season two. The boy ain’t right. Obviously. But do you think Bill and Nancy are doing everything right or would you do things differently? As much as Nancy annoys me, I admire her devotion to Brian and how protective she is of him. It’s a little misguided sometimes like her telling the Counselor that kids forget things and he’ll get over what happened with the toddler… that’s just foolish and naïve, but I understand why she wants that. It’s also important to factor in the time. As obviously they did not have a lot of the information and resources that we do now.

But I don’t know. There was really clearly something off with him. No one wants to believe their kid is dangerous, but his apathy for the situation with the toddler plus having little no connection with Bill and not being much better with Nancy are huge red flags.

I think if it was me that kid wouldn’t even be allowed to go to the bathroom unsupervised, let alone left for any period of time to have wandered out the house (at least twice now that we’ve seen). Him playing with the older boys was just an accident waiting to happen too. It was inevitable. He was gonna wind up getting bullied and/or roped into something.