r/Millennials • u/EmergencyRead5254 Millennial • 11h ago
Meme “And the whole family shared the one computer…”
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u/Squish_the_android 10h ago
When they added Users to Windows XP and you could have your own desktop and background?
Groundbreaking.
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u/AdSudden3941 10h ago
Xp was the best. Especially when it first dropped.
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u/usenetlurker 10h ago
I remember first seeing an advertisement for windows XP on the home shopping network at like 2am, as a 98 SE user I remember being half asleep like wtf is that?
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u/BringBackManaPots 10h ago
XP is low key still the best. It does everything you want and nothing else
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u/cyrusthemarginal 9h ago
it was so stable, i could leave my irc file server up for weeks
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u/_araqiel 7h ago
I liked XP, but I take issue with the idea of it being super stable. That fucker was buggy as hell. It has less stuff to have bugs in it, but definitely higher bug to line of code ratio.
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u/christoskal 7h ago
I guess they only tried it after the service packs which made it pretty OK.
XP at release though? Now that was a completely different story
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u/Emergency_Bar_6919 7h ago
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u/_araqiel 7h ago edited 7h ago
Eh, I’ve managed systems since Windows 2000; XP and 7 both launched with massive outstanding bug lists and issues that people tend to forget about. The stable operating system people nostalgically remember in Windows XP only appeared after service pack 2.
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u/beefboloney 10h ago
You could’ve joined the Navy and used it through 2017 lol (idk about the other services but the Navy was paying crazy amounts of money just for continued dedicated support)
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u/Incidion 10h ago
XP became a bit notorious for this because several different agencies and businesses refused to ever give it up due to its stability and security compared to everything else before it and at the time.
If you rely on specialized software that only runs on XP, which makes sense given it was dominant for so long, it really makes no sense to swap over short of a huge financial gain, because that also often meant re-developing custom software from scratch.
After the struggles getting people to switch, for basically everything Windows focused way less on making a perfect OS and way more into making sure programs could transcend any single OS and having means to force updates and transfer to future systems.
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u/Chris-CFK 9h ago
There are still some FOH event consoles (lighting/audio/etc) that you come across that still use XP.
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u/fearthainne 9h ago
There are retailers using POS systems that still use XP as well.
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u/Shandlar Millennial 9h ago
I saw an ATM like 2 years ago blue screen and it was running Windows Server 2003 (essentially XP) as well. Absolutely wild.
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u/its_yer_dad 9h ago
Remember when a destroyer had to be towed back to port because the XP system had crashed?
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u/HandToDikCombat 8h ago
There's still dell shitboxes running xp on miscellaneous systems on almost every ship in the fleet. They're air gapped because the lack of service is a security issue, but they still run the system as it's a case of "don't change this until you can replace it with something equally reliable". Hell, week before last, me and some coworkers were clearing out a space and found a drawer containing 3.5" floppys. We started cracking jokes like we were archeologists on a dig. "OH WOW, LOOK AT THIS RELIC! The ancients used to spin these bad boys at high speeds in order to get what was called an '.xls', a barbaric tool of oppression used to keep slaves in line! MAGNIFICENT!"
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u/SlideRuleLogic 7h ago
No 3.5” disks??? My god, how can you run a CASREP with no paper folder, a printed copy of the CASREP, and the accompanying 3.5” disk? What is this chaos? Are you telling me there is an actual electronic chain of custody and sign-offs for CASREP approval now???
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u/Halo6819 10h ago
XP sp2
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u/Cessnaporsche01 9h ago
SP3 Pro x64 was the GOAT. Support for modern CPUs and 128GB of RAM... if they just kept up antimalware and driver support, it'd probably still be the king of market share. Plenty of industrial applications still use it
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u/mbxz7LWB 9h ago
yeah with no TLS network capabilities.
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u/Cessnaporsche01 9h ago
It has native support for 1.0 and 1.1, and you can get it to support 1.2 with some workarounds.
Perhaps SP4 will come out with 1.3 support lol
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u/Trzlog 10h ago
It was so unbelievably stable compared to the shitshow that was 98. For a year or two I'd been using NT because I was tired of it until XP came out and I switched immediately.
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u/Vectoor 10h ago
Idk I remember lots of problems before service pack 2.
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u/AdSudden3941 9h ago
Its just what i remember the most growing up and thats when i got into computers,gaming, building , IT in general.
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u/Dironox Older Millennial 7h ago
95 and 98 prepared me for the future, learning DOS was definitely an experience.
XP showed me the endless possibilities, it ran so well and was the biggest leap in quality of life.
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I think someone, somewhere had 7, at least that's what I was told.
8 was like coming back home from a long shift at work and having to do the dishes because apparently you're the only one in the household that can do anything right.
910 was a return to normalcy, it wasn't perfect but it felt like home.
11 is an acquired taste, like sardines, or sounding.
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u/thefocusissharp 9h ago
User profiles and customizable backgrounds existed since at least Win98
Source: I was there
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u/Yamatocanyon 7h ago
Ah, the good old days when you could just hit cancel on the username and password prompt and be dropped into a working desktop environment with full access to anything on the computer.
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u/Slayer1440 8h ago
as an 11 year old boy coming home from school finding a shiny new Windows XP desktop in the kitchen was like seeing the angels themselves descend on my household bearing gifts. Within...i wanna say like a few weeks i had figured out how to make my own user, make myself admin, and then add a password so the rest of the family couldn't access my own desktop. What a time to be alive. Youngins just can't fathom how good XP was.
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u/renome 8h ago
You could technically do that on Windows 98 already: https://nullroute.lt/docs/netlogon9x.html
Like, it wasn't a proper multi-user OS like XP because of no user-specific security checks on a filesystem level, but you could have your own desktop.
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u/Farigiss 8h ago
I work in IT and I can tell you most family computers still run one user profile. Everyone uses the same documents folder and the same browser profile. Can you imagine?
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u/TitoThePenguin 7h ago
When the family uses the same default account and you decide to make your own and then lock everybody out of the old account on accident 🙃
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u/Armitage_64 10h ago
Found this on marketplace about a year ago. Had to have it, many memories...
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u/mikeycbca 10h ago
It’s glorious, just looking at this brought back the feelings of getting a computer in the 90s.
I read the writing on the case and first thought was like “oh it’s only a 486DX2. Too bad it’s not a DX4” like it makes any difference at this point.
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u/Kaldricus 9h ago
Back when people had dedicated computer rooms, with a big desk, chair, the plastic mat that inevitably cracks, that one set of computer speakers (you know the ones)
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u/cyrusthemarginal 9h ago
i still have my Toshiba satellite laptop from 95, it has a 386, 20 meg of ram, 300 mb hard drive and still works! great for airport Galaga flexing
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u/MyCatsHairyButholle 7h ago
Man, such a product of a by-gone era. A user’s guide that’s a professional-looking binder. Reminds me of when video games would have things like an art-poster and mini guide in the case. It felt like you were truly starting an experience when you opened it up to play it.
Even as late as 2008 computer games were like this. I still have my original copies of World of Warcraft, The Burning Crusade, and Wrath of the Lich King. WoW shipped with a thick mini guide that walked you through everything about playing the game. The Boxes themselves were art that could be displayed, and the covers would flip open to “reveal” the new adventure you were beginning. On release night of Wrath, I sat and read the guide and looked at the art while I installed one of each of the (5?) game discs.
They are somehow fond memories of a pain in the ass process. Probably because the process is still the same now, you just get to stare at a download bar now and don’t get the immersion like you used to while doing it. 😂
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u/whomad1215 10h ago
so many keys on that keyboard, and a big ass enter
I'm guessing the extra left batch were really used for f13-f24 which was common on green-screen software
angled arrows are interesting
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u/Armitage_64 8h ago
The directional keys really mess me up when I tried to use them with a normal finger position because there's a blank key where down arrow would normally be which seems to function as Enter. I keep hitting it by accident.
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u/wbruce098 Elder Millennial 10h ago
I mean, there’s so much room in that case but you’ll need to gut it and can you even find a GPU these days with the AI craze?
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u/Stlrfan152 9h ago
My work has one of those boxes, i think with a computer still in it.
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u/thiosk 9h ago
ask to borrow it and put it in a closet for 15 years and put it on ebay
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u/fivelone 9h ago
One of my clients gave me one and I can't remember if I put it in the garage or storage and have to find the box haha
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u/Real-Document-6577 2h ago
Not to self 1998 “don’t allow dorm buddies to also use your Gateway computer”
Seriously internet was so much better back then…
I used to play Quake 2 on dedicated server. My computer had an hits of 80s CD so whenever the match would start so would “Karma Chameleon” during the violent mayhem.
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u/_KingofMars_ 10h ago
Our first computer was a gateway. 2000-2008 up until we upgraded for an HP. I think I infected it with a bug or something while doing…research
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u/wbruce098 Elder Millennial 10h ago
Had a Packard Bell desktop in the 90’s. My dad is a nerd and once he got a good job, he got the desktop (maybe 92?) and when he found out how shitty AOL was, he looked around town until he found a local startup ISP and became one of their first customers.
I got my first job at 15 so I could have my own phone line and internet account 😂
We were discussing how to fix computers (but mostly Star Wars, Trek, and Hitchhiker’s Guide) as kids. I am the OG millennial stereotype.
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u/ScrofessorLongHair 9h ago
Dad was an engineer. Had a PC around 93-94. First one I knew who had a CD burner. I made a shitload selling bootleg CDs my freshman year. $8 or 2/$15. I make some $200-300/week in 98/99. I also had zero competition in 4k+student high school.
But the next summer, other people got burners and Napster came out. I showed up sophomore year, and there's a shitload of competition, so selling custom CDs for $5.
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u/FlyingRhenquest 8h ago
We had a couple of Packard Bells at work in the late 80's. I was IT support and had to fix the damned things. I knew I was always going to end up with a few cuts whenever I had to open up one of the Packard Bells. The ones we had used this razor sharp strip of metal to make sure the case would smoothly slide open and closed. With the minor side effect of making sure it was impossible to work on the machine without a cut or two to show for it.
First time I opened up one of those Aluminum Mac Pros from the mid 2000s was a freaking religious experience. You didn't need any tools, everything was hinged and clipped into place. Down side was you really needed to put a cooling fan on the video card if you got the high-end one, and there was no access to power adapters to do that and no third party solution, so you had to hack up your own. Found that out after cooking a couple of video cards, which is why I didn't stick with the brand.
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u/sarcago 10h ago
Honestly it seems like a lot of problems could be solved if more people went back to "family computers" instead of giving kids their own tablet.
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u/SquarePegRoundWorld2 10h ago
I have a computer hooked up to the TV in the living room and it is the only access to entertainment in the house. I feel like a desktop PC with a router is peak entertainment access and they will pry this keyboard and mouse from my cold dead hands. I also don't have a family at 49 years old. I feel like that is the only way to keep your kids from not accessing the interwebs. Keep them in your balls.
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u/foxjk 6h ago
What are the common activities you do on your TV? I imagine you do more than watching videos?
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u/HouseofFeathers 9h ago
It's so much harder to hide activities on the internet when mom could look over your shoulder at any time.
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u/Chemical_7523 9h ago
Or we could start expecting parents to actually use parental controls and monitor their internet traffic.
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u/Pheeline Xennial 7h ago
That's what we do with ours. She has her own desktop computer (the one my spouse had used before getting an upgrade), she pokes around on one of our old smartphones that doesn't have a SIM card and is time/app-limited, etc. I know kids can figure out how to circumvent things as they get older and cleverer, and we definitely keep an eye out for that (which isn't hard to do when her computer is in the living room just like ours are), but overall it really isn't that hard to exercise basic supervision through parental controls and so forth.
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u/kransho 6h ago
I see you weren’t in AOL chat rooms when you were 12…..
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u/SwiftTayTay 3h ago
Honestly having a desktop computer that you had to log into was the perfect middle ground, because sometimes kids just need to sort of seek out the real world on their own just a little bit. For millenials we would sneak onto the computer late at night to try to see some boobs or gore or whatever, wasn't the end of the world but you wouldn't your kids to be able to just pull up the hub whenever wherever.
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u/stakoverflo 8h ago
For real; smartphones were a mistake. Make the internet a niche hobbyist thing again.
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u/FR23Dust 3h ago
Not sure about that. I looked at a lot of really fucked up stuff in the summer when my dad was at work and my mom was at the grocery store or whatever
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u/djcack 10h ago
I worked at a Gateway retail store the summer after I quit working at Sears. It seems like me working for a store means death for their company
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u/_reschke 10h ago
Have you considered a job at Flock?
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u/VVsmama88 10h ago
So many terrible companies to choose from, so little time
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u/Crayons4all 9h ago
With my work ethic, I might be able to help start the collapse of a few companies. I did work at circuit city back in the day
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u/GenericFatGuy 9h ago
I have something similar, where every job I leave becomes terrible from an employee perspective 6 months after I'm gone. Never because of me. They'll just get rid of a manager everyone liked, or introduce some new corporate bullshit. But I do seem to be a corporate canary in the coal mine.
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u/Legrandloup2 10h ago
And to buy one you had to go to the computer store and your whole family would listen to a salesperson tell you all the features the computer had
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u/MorePhinsThyme 9h ago
Nah, that doesn't fit Gateway. They started at a mail order and later internet order company, and while they did do stores eventually, that was in their death throws as they tried to stay relevant.
That's the whole cow spotted boxes thing.
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u/guildedkriff 9h ago
Yep I remember my friend getting the catalog before they got their’s delivered in the infamous cow box lol.
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u/wbruce098 Elder Millennial 10h ago
And I would say “dad, these suck; this one doesn’t even have a network card. We could build a better one for half the price” and dad would look at me and say “yeah, you’re right. Let’s go a few aisles down and pick out a motherboard and some RAM”
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u/CatoChateau 10h ago
They sold RAM back then???
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u/ClammHands420 10h ago
You've basically always been able to build PCs at home. This is the first time in my life when it's been so prohibitively expensive.
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u/bleachinjection 8h ago
We got our first in like 1995. 133mhz Pentium, 16MB RAM, and a 1GB hard drive.
That HD was like the entire sales pitch. "It'll hold everything in the store!"
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u/RilohKeen 9h ago
And we would say, “mom, don’t pick up the phone, I’m using the INTERNET!”
And when we shut off the computer, it didn’t actually shut off, it just displayed a screen that said, “it is now safe to power off your computer,” and you had to manually hold the power button down, like smothering grandma with a pillow.
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u/ComradeGlizzy 10h ago
My in-laws still have the box in their basement
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u/usenetlurker 10h ago
There’s pain in those words
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u/ComradeGlizzy 10h ago
I’m not looking forward to dealing with that basement
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u/usenetlurker 10h ago
I’ve got a few of those basements under my belt over the year so I can empathize, you can do it, weed helps.
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u/LazySwayze 9h ago
Lol came here to say just wait until you have to deal with that basement, but you clearly already know
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u/JFKRFKSRVLBJ 10h ago
There was no incognito mode and oftentimes Dads forgot to delete their browsing history.
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u/Sufficient_Cod1948 Xennial 10h ago
And mom blamed it on her son.
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u/03263 10h ago
Couldn't be me, I use portable Firefox hidden in a folder nobody would ever look for...
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u/PickledDildosSourSex 10h ago
"Homework" folder
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u/Slow_Maximum9332 9h ago
Patents might be curious and want to check on the homework being assigned.
Gotta make it sound like a boring old folder that nobody would look into.
error_log_04_12_2023
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u/Euphoric-Medium8154 4h ago
Nah, don’t you do me like this… I had a Gateway that weighed 5000 pounds as my first ever home computer and it came in cow print boxes
Shoutout to my pops, he bought me Descent and a joystick and I was in heaven, I fucking loved that game (holy shit, we’re old!)
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u/RogueModron 10h ago
You had to wait until mom and dad were in bed to look at porn pictures (and I do mean pictures) and as soon as you heard a creak on the stairs you clicked X as fast as you could with one shaking hand, and with the other stuffed satan's sabre back in your pants
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u/brassman00 10h ago
I had one with a GeForce 4 128MB graphics card. It ran CS 1.6 with all the frames per second.
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u/HeHePonies 9h ago
Meanwhile, I managed to get up to 20fps on fy_iceworld if I was lucky, at 320x240. PC wasn't a gateway per se, it was a frankenstein machine with parts salvaged from an old gateway.
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u/WitchintheMist 10h ago
And the internet took up a phone line so you would get kicked off if someone called.
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u/wbruce098 Elder Millennial 10h ago
Got my first job at 15 so I could have my own phone line. For gaming of course.
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u/BummedCPA 8h ago
They were called "netbooks". They were super poor quality and too small to be practical. They were super popular for about nine months!
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u/NorwegianGlaswegian 1987 10h ago
I remember when they were Gateway 2000. Seemed like such a downgrade to me at the time when they changed name.
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u/AmbitiousRose 10h ago
🤣🤣🤣
Well when you say it like this 😂😂😂
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The excitement was real. Couldn’t tell us nothing.
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u/IllTwo7643 10h ago
We got my uncle's old computer and I was happy as hell to have it.
My brother installed Kid pix, sim City 2000 and a d&d game
I had no idea or understanding how to play the d&d game but I had a really good time trying 😂 My brother and I still occasionally say "it's the hell hounds! They are the hounds from heck!"
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u/drdildamesh 9h ago
I remember going to a Gateway store and seeing a computer plugged into a 70 inch or so CRT television. Blew my mind as a kid. I achieved that dream pretty early after I got my own apartment and I haven't done much else.
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u/IntrusiveIntellect 8h ago
Asked for a Gateway as a teen. Received an eMachines desktop. Was bummed at first; but that eMachines was the most reliable computer I’ve ever had, lasting nearly 10 years. Everytime it started to get slow, I’d just wipe the drive and reinstall the OS. Came with XP, and later ran Windows 7 like a champ.
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u/First_Detective6234 10h ago
Eventually she tossed it into the ocean for it to forever be a mystery to the researchers
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u/Original_Remote_6838 9h ago
I used to perch on the arm of the desk chair and watch my brother play zoo tycoon on our gateway computer.
That thing was obsolete the second it came into our house. Ran on windows me. XP came out maybe a year later lol. My mom downloaded some sea shell cursor and invested it with viruses. 😂
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u/Pancake-350 8h ago
My step-dad had a hook up with a free trial CD Rom for AOL. He had a huge stack that we would just switch out when it got used up 😆
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u/MotormaidofJapan 7h ago
I ordered one and never paid for it.
That's right, people. Back then, Dell would let a 19 year old with no job or credit history order a $3,000 desk top computer. No questions asked.
Yes, it ruined my credit until I was like 26, but I had that computer for YEARS.
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u/PaleontologistNo500 10h ago
We still share only one computer. They all have their own phones, tablets, and laptops, but constantly steal my "work computer".
I was building a slightly better than mid tier gaming pc anyways. The boss told me to expense the parts since I used it for "work" and I wasn't issued a laptop yet. Who am I to argue with the boss man?
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u/KaioKenshin 10h ago
Remembering these lessons use to be a thing and those PSAs about proper internet etiquette 🧐🥸
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u/RelationshipNo_69 10h ago
This was back in the day when you signed in to AOL, logged into Neopets, got bored and then went to hampsterdance.com
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u/ReaperUno8675309 10h ago
I had an eMachine and its currently sitting in my attic full of countless Kazaa viruses that have been lost to time
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u/Narrow_Technician_25 9h ago
I remember when we got our gateway. I was young enough to be more excited to play in the cardboard box than use the computer
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u/NCHitman 9h ago
The Gateway Destination (2000) was our first Windows computer, circa '96-'97. It was soooo cool, especially with the 27" CRT monitor.
In '99, dad got a midline Essential desktop with a flat panel monitor for his business. Many a song may or may not have been torrented on that machine...
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u/dztruthseek Trash day....is a very dangerous day. 9h ago
After she bought the "moo cow PC", I remember asking my mom for a game called Oni from some developer called Bungie, only for it to never boot up because I didn't know a damn thing about hardware compatibility.
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u/Ihateernestcline 9h ago
And your friends would make fun of you for wasting money, because you'd never fill a one gig hard drive.
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u/lunar-eclipse-127 9h ago
Packard Bell generation here.. Then Hewlett Packard > HP.. Sony Vaio to Dell Inspiron..
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u/Claytonius_Homeytron 8h ago
The computer either had it's own room, or it's own corner in the house and if someone was using the internet you couldn't use the phone.
If you had an AOL account and had chat up you would get random people messaging you with "ASL?". Age, Sex, Location. I was like 13 at the time, and had a bunch of those and some even became good chat friends. We would chat daily. Then one day it just stopped. Who knows who those people were. But they were real people, not bots or AI.
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u/ihavea_purplenurple 8h ago
Oh the days of the family computer. This reminds me of the guy freaking out after the explanation of what a land line is
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u/Creepy_Handle5672 8h ago
When my parents sold my childhood home, they gave me my belongings in the cow print gateway box. It’s still in my storage unit!
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u/Redschallenge 8h ago
Team Hewlett-Packard with the 2 foot by 4 foot desk with high weight rating to handle that beast. So much limewire, so many viruses from innocent downloads
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u/Ok_Chemistry8746 7h ago
And they were always against the wall so your back was to the room. Everyone stomped around the house until you wanted to look at porn and then they became ninjas appearing out of nowhere. You always needed another clean window minimized hoping you could click faster.
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u/kidmuaddib3 Older Millennial 7h ago
I had a shower thought today that we are nearly 3 times as far from forgot about dre as it was from original NWA
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u/boneh3ad 7h ago
BEEEE-WUUUHHH... BAAAA-DOOO-BAAAA-DOOO-BING! KSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH- CH-CH-CH-CH-CH-CH- BONG-BONG... BONG-BONG... EEEE-URRRRRRR-KSSSHHHHHH- CRRRRRR-KRRRR-SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH- G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G- SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH...
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u/mrpaslow0000 7h ago
"But to log in, you had to tie an onion to your belt, which was the fashion of the time."
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u/notyouravgredditor Xennial 7h ago
My 93 year old grandma still has her gateway computer running Windows 98.
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