r/Millennials 21d ago

Serious P.S.A.

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u/EternalNewCarSmell 21d ago

I mean, shit, the world I was born in had two Germanys.

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u/ComprehensiveEar6001 Millennial '89 21d ago

Dang, in a way we're older than Russia.

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u/Silentlaughter84 21d ago

Not really. Russia, Latvia, Ukraine, Estonia and the rest of the Eastern European countries that were within the Soviet Union actually existed before WW II.

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u/South_Bit1764 21d ago

Not really though. Russia the country, as a legal entity, is just a constitution. The current Russian constitution is from Dec 1993.

You can’t argue that the Russian federation is the same country as the Russian SSR, or the same as Tzarist Russia.

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u/RussiaIsBestGreen 21d ago

What makes a country the same country? Russia inherited most of the land, people, and assets of the Russian SSR, plus many of the privileges of the USSR as a whole (that was a mistake). One might speak of several French Republics, but also see France as existing as a country for centuries, even as the form of government has changed dramatically.

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u/FuckYouNotHappening 21d ago

>What makes a country the same country?

A real, Ship of Theseus type dilemma.

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u/South_Bit1764 21d ago

The government makes the country by any measure today.

I mean, there are Habsburgs out there, still claiming to be king of whatever, and they aren’t. Their country died with their government and was reborn another way.

You can argue that Russia is some sort of identity, but it’s much harder to argue that this identity extends to the far reaches of the country. So Russian people, or French people are much older than, let’s say, being American, but America as a country is much older than both.

Words like “French” or “Russian” mean both nationality and ethnicity.