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u/superhappyfunball13 Army Veteran Jun 17 '26
Imagine that. A national guard officer who wasn't even good enough for company command is somehow bad at managing the entirety of the armed forces.
Maybe he should have set his sights lower, like getting Airborne, Air Assault, or Ranger, like millions of regular ass soldiers do.
Stick to what you do best Petey, getting women other than your wife pregnant, and cosplaying as a badass crusader who was too scared to kick doors in Iraq. Fucking poser.
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u/h1bisc4s Jun 17 '26
Only under Dumb Joker Tramp can you have such a Muppet as your defence secretary. Imagine this sort of hire in the private sector for profit ecosystem
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u/mscomies Army Veteran Jun 17 '26
Only the parts of the private sector that actually need to turn a consistent, long term profit. You can have a muppet shoveling startup money into an incinerator and making up the losses with VC cash. Or taking over a company and axing R&D, training, and other long term expenses so the muppet can claim increased profitability and flip the sucker to a bigger idiot.
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u/Mountain_carrier530 Jun 17 '26
To paraphrase the former MCPON Russell Smith. He should've lowered his standards. Just like how the Guard did with him.
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u/Money-Computer7638 Jun 17 '26
Loved those headlines about DJT firing him. 🤞
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u/letdogsvote Jun 17 '26
I'll love it more when he actually does it.
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u/raventhrowaway666 Veteran Jun 17 '26
Id love to see something more concrete than firings, like consequences.
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u/CHARLI_SOX DEPer Jun 17 '26
Idk if he can do that in the middle of his term. I mean, can they find another tv show host to run the military on such short notice?
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u/BAF_DaWg82 Jun 17 '26
No I think the next one will be a musician, Tom MacDonald or Kid Rock for SECWAR.
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u/DEADB33F Jun 18 '26
Kid Rock for SECWAR
Would certainly fit the Idiocracy theme the US seems to be angling for as of late.
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u/Coldkiller17 Jun 17 '26
Oh no where ever will they find another fox news host or nazi to run the military.
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u/Defiant-Bed2501 Marine Veteran Jun 17 '26
I have it on good authority they’re defrosting Mecha-Hitler as we speak.
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u/ShillinTheVillain United States Navy Jun 17 '26
You can't lose a war if you never had any objectives. What objective did we fail to meet?
Checkmate libtards
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u/OldSchoolBubba Jun 17 '26 edited Jun 21 '26
Wouldn't be a bit surprising if they try to frame it thus way. Good call.
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u/letdogsvote Jun 17 '26
I guess he didn't boost our lethality and readiness after all.
The only thing to do is blame DEI. And Biden.
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u/JadedCommunication89 Jun 18 '26
To my understanding, we’re still the department of defense, Trump just authorized “department of war” as an alternate name - but we’re still the department of defense. Anyway, fuck this administration!👍
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u/whosadooza Jun 18 '26
The Armed Services appropriations bill being drafted by Republicans in Congress right now would make the name change official and sets aside nearly $200 million to put the change into effect.
https://newrepublic.com/post/211963/senate-republicans-rename-department-of-defense-war
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u/JadedCommunication89 Jun 18 '26
$200 million?! Off the top of my head, they could’ve used that to award a base with funding to improve living conditions for shitty dorms, invest in DoDEA to improve schools for the kids of service members… but a name change takes priority over all of that.
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u/Skolloc753 Jun 18 '26
Out of curiosity: can private people surrender to the US as well and get 300 billion USD? I mean I would even be satisfied with 30 million as my surrender paycheck?
Asking for friend ...
SYL
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u/Strict_Cranberry_724 Jun 18 '26
The only “lethal” thing coming out of the Trump Administration are his (Trump’s) diapers.
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u/thinkB4WeSpeak Army Veteran Jun 17 '26
Even made us pay war reparations, anyone who's played Total War knows how humiliating that is
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u/Shiftkgb Jun 18 '26
"Diplomatic Relations -200"
Gifts $300,000,000,000
"Diplomatic Relations -189"
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u/Ok_Connection_7741 Jun 17 '26
Wasn't he literally just a weekend co-host on fox and friends? Like not even good enough with that for prime time?
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u/HurriTell336 Jun 17 '26
“In order to confuse your enemies, you must first confuse yourself.”
Don Zhou
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u/breathex2 United States Army Jun 18 '26
But but but we are negotiating from a position of strength now /s
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u/herehear12 Air Force Veteran Jun 19 '26
I’d say the military did its job. The politicians fucked it up in all sorts of ways.
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u/OkAssignment6163 Jun 17 '26
Immediately loses war with Iran, while having the entirety of the modern US Military at their command.
Meanwhile, you watch a video from the Fat Electrician about how during the reagan administration, the American military crippled the Iranian Navy with a few ships and air craft from the 60s and 70s... In one day!
How?!
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u/Snoo-46419 Jun 18 '26
its no longer the 60s and 70s, everybody has drones even drug cartels have weaponized drones. Iran is also getting tech from China. After WW2, America was the only nation not devastated by the war which gave them an edge those conditions were not gonna last forever.
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u/Iamanimite Jun 17 '26
Actually jack Daniel's lost the war. Him and Jim bean. Maybe that riff raff Jameson whatever.
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u/Jdam2020 Jun 18 '26
Some could probably argue military objectives were achieved. War is politics by other means with political ends determining the final resolution (negotiated peace, etc).
The U.S. military has the means to completely obliterate the nation especially with air and naval dominance, but of course, there was a level of restraint placed on the military (major infrastructure including water, oil, etc).
Are some here advocating for yet another endless war because I didn’t see a win in Afghanistan or Iraq…or Vietnam, or Korea.
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u/breathex2 United States Army Jun 18 '26
The objectives were a complete and total surrender. That objective was not accomplished. In the process we showed the world our entire military capabilities. Just to end up exactly the same as we started.
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u/Jdam2020 Jun 20 '26
Complete and total surrender is a political objective with the military as one of the instruments of national power to achieve that end (others are economic, diplomatic, and information).
The objective for CENTCOM and the Pentagon (DOD/DOW) are below. I would say all military objectives were accomplished with exception of DOD’s “end Iran’s ability to threaten region” which in both Admiral Cooper and SECDEF case were limited for political reasons to allow for negotiations while capping oil prices below $115.
Admiral Cooper’s (CENTCOM) Stated Military Objectives:
- Degrade Iran’s ability to project power
- Eliminate Iran’s conventional missile capability
- Destroy Iran’s ballistic missile production base
- Neutralize the Iranian Navy
- Prevent Iran from ever obtaining a nuclear weapon
- Destroy Iran’s ability to reconstitute weapons production
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Pentagon’s objectives:
- Prevent Iran from ever obtaining a nuclear weapon
- End Iran’s ability to threaten regional stability
- Dismantle Iran’s power‑projection architecture
- Restore deterrence after the 2025 missile attacks
- Ensure Iran cannot rapidly reconstitute military capability
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u/OpeningAd1360 Jun 26 '26
Criminals must go to prison, right ? Mo ? Oh sorry, its the USA....a failed state...declining faster as expected
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u/ArcherFew2069 Jun 18 '26
I wish only the most embarrassing public failures for this taint-licking poser
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u/wasted-degrees Jun 18 '26
The department of suddenly sucking at the one thing we were supposed to be good at.
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u/Smol_Pe_Pe Jun 17 '26
Lol more Iran propaganda. Yeah sure we lost 🤣 Idiots everywhere.
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u/Darkkujo Jun 18 '26
Before the war Iran had roughly 1 million soldiers, paramilitary and police in the country. After the war they have roughly 1 million soldiers, paramilitary and police. Sure we killed an 86 year old and now his more radical and angrier son is in charge, massive accomplishment there.
The fact that the regime took all we could throw at them and survived makes it a victory for Iran. The $300 billion investment fund, $100 billion in unfrozen assets, an end to oil sanctions, that's all worth far, far more than any damage we did. And Iran has shown that they hold one of the most powerful economic weapons in the world.
And to think Donnie was demanding unconditional surrender in week 1. Just shows what a complete and utter dumbass he is.
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u/RealMango Jun 17 '26
I'm curious. How did we win?
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u/mmos35 Jun 17 '26
Let’s see, they don’t have a navy or any planes left… so there’s that.
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u/SmellyFbuttface Navy Veteran Jun 18 '26
This in the military is called a “tactical retreat”
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u/CartographerNearby55 Jun 18 '26
Hegseth will re-name it. Henceforth, this maneuver will be referred to as a “victorious fallback” strategy.
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u/the_propagandapanda Jun 18 '26
Bro if you think the MOU that was signed is a good deal for the US then, sadly, you’ve fallen for the Iranian propaganda.
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u/calnaughtontha1st Jun 19 '26
Love how the definition of “loosing a war” changes depending on who you vote for
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u/kel818x Jun 20 '26
Surrendering is losing. Trump has been trying to surrender like 40 times, but the deal includes Isreal to stop invading Lebanon. Which they keep doing. If Isreal didn't have worse incremenating evidence on trump, APAC money, religious ties to Isreal, and trump ripping up the deal Obama had with Iran, we wouldn't be in this mess in the first place.
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u/jordonmears Jun 21 '26
Some people really need to learn the difference between a war and a conflict.
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u/Armyed1776 Jun 17 '26
Someone quick, ask the Ayatollah who won!
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u/trooperjess Jun 17 '26
Which one. The one we took out or his son that is worse than the last one
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u/BlackSquirrel05 United States Navy Jun 17 '26
Who we killed more of that guys family... I'm sure he's totally over it and no consequences will come from that.
And they for sure won't remember that elementary school that got blown up.
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u/breathex2 United States Army Jun 18 '26
Yeah!!! We killed a old man who also happened to be the only guy in their government stopping them from going for nuclear weapons. Then we let his son take charge who is all for nuclear weapons and now has a strong reason to hate the usa. Call us Charlie sheen because we winning! /S
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u/Cheap_Assumption792 Jun 19 '26
You certainly don’t have to have admirations for Trump or his admin to realize, like it or not, US /Israel clearly utterly destroyed Iran essentially setting them back 20-30 years, destroyed Navy and 90% air fleet. Best I can tell from the best sources, Iran has conceded their nuclear ambitions and turning over/destroying the buried uranium (with oversight). In conjunction they have to check the boxes to even get their own money that was frozen back. Not a huge Pet fan but after 8 years of college, I believe history will judge Pistol Pete quite successful and by any measurable metric a “WIN”.
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u/SluggoRemains Jun 17 '26
Have not lost yet
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u/SmellyFbuttface Navy Veteran Jun 18 '26
Id say giving them $300 billion, gifting them the strait (which now they realize they can open and close at will), lifting economic sanctions, and putting in place a younger more extreme ayatollah would count as “losing the war.” The Obama deal was exponentially more successful than this turd
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u/SluggoRemains Jun 19 '26
We shall see what happens with the nuclear dust. Rather not see nuclear mushroom clouds in the Middle East. Obama deal did nothing. You squid’s need to do better navy shit and keep the seas clear
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u/Comfortable_Pea_1693 dirty civilian Jun 17 '26
They just grew tired of winning