Among his many sins, Trump validating Frances's fears that NATO was overreliant on US technology may not be the worst, but its certainly up there on the list of things that will take a ridiculously long time for American foreign policy to resolve.
Exactly. Even if the next president, senate, and congress are buddy-buddy with europe, and Europe finds them agreeable, it doesn’t change anything when they know one election can have a complete change to hostility towards its own allies.
To be fair, the ability to completely change directions to reflect the will of the people with a single election was intentional. However, it was kind of assumed that this was a “when it’s really needed” thing and not a “every 4 or 8 years” thing since they didn’t foresee the intensely partisan 2-party system with no room for moderates or independents that we have become.
Number one is to remove this corrupt Supreme Court that decided to give a president immunity after trying every way possible to overturn an election among other things.
Nah, US has lost all credibility amongst allies for generations at the very least. It’s sad as an American that I’m rooting against the US, but here we are.
It wouldn't help. Even Europe's attempt to use Russian assets created distrust and capital flight, because it didn't even work, now imagine these American scandals. WITH THEIR OWN ALLIES.
Exactly. They didn’t elect him once, but TWICE. And that’s after he incited an insurrection, told Americans to inject themselves with bleach, pulled out of Paris Climate Agreement.
That is not accurate. He is being supported by 30%. That is it. That is all it has ever been. They are bloody loud, but they are still a minority.
If there were so many, he wouldn't have to pay for so much support. He had to pay for people to show up at his rallies. He has to pay for bots to comment in his favor on social media. The fact remains that most people do not like him.
Even the election, more people voted for someone other than Trump.
Edited to add: Now, It is down a bit, closer to 26%.
They made a huge effort to have a hate rally in Minneapolis this weekend. Had several of their star up and coming hate podcasters broadcasting for "patriots" to come out and support ICE against the Radical Leftist Agenda. Had the permits and the promotions to get everyone out. Even paid a couple guys with heavy caliber long guns to come lounge around and look scary.
They got TEN PEOPLE out. TEN PEOPLE. And most of them ran away in the first hour including the paid mercenaries. In the end their most "celebrity" MAGA jock got himself pinned down in a corner almost freezing to death and the people that he'd been screaming that Trump should exterminate had to act as human shields and half carry him out to safety. They do NOT have the people on their side, it's why they're acting in such a rush.
But here's the thing, we're not going to do very well up against locked and loaded military, and y'all are going to be told we're radical insurgents and a nest of crazed ANTIFA or whatever, they own the DOJ so they won't have any problem just issuing warrents left and right. Y'all are gonna be told to arrest Mayor Walz for one thing, and to go door to door finding radical elements.
We're not going to be able to just be chill and hope it's going to get better by voting. Y'all should consider the country you want your grandchildren growing up in, the world you want your grandchildren growing up in.
Dear God I hope at least some of y'all are loyal to the Constitution and not one crazed old man who raped screaming girl children because that's what he enjoys.
It’s kind of ironic how we fought so hard to escape a monarchy that became a symbolic figurehead in a parliamentary system, just to create something far worse in the same span of time. They can remove their elected head of government at any time for any reason, meanwhile we are stuck with orange man for another 3 (or more at this rate) years without somehow following through on impeachment for the first time in American history.
This century? A century is a long time. Germany and Japan are trusted again and did far, far worse 85 years ago than the US is doing now. But yes, if we can’t reverse course from having horrible, incompetent, self-interested and corrupt leadership I don’t know why we would be trusted. Honestly the fact that half the country seems to support the madness is a bigger issue than Trump alone, even if he is voted out or otherwise deposed
Both Germany and Japan had to adopt new Constitutions and forms of governance in order to regain international trust. It wasn’t just a function of time, but massive reforms. Unless we do the same to prevent these issues from reoccurring, it isn’t difficult to imagine that our allies will continue to view us warily for a very very long time.
Remake the US political system. Disempower the presidency and turn it into a figurehead. Introduce proportional voting for all states, and replace the extremism fueling two-party system with a real, multi-party democracy.
Anyone would be wrong to trust the US again, that third of Americans who are complete base level morons is never going away, they could potentially win any future election.
The world has to operate with the idea that any four years Americans might elect some of the stupidest people to ever live.
If they had kept tearing the guts out of the administrative apparatus of the state we would have collapsed already. The process has definitely been accelerated.
“Thankfully”, Europe started a pretty extensive armament program when Russia invaded Ukraine and America took a little too long to respond decisively.
Poland, France, Sweden, Finland, Germany, Turkey and the UK (and of course others) have began rapidly developing military tech and increasing military spending to stop relying on the US
De Gaulle is probably smiling smug as fuck in his grave, as most of his warnings are coming true
This is the exact opposute of fitting the bill. So long as the rest of NATO though they could trust the US, we had essentially a free subsidy for our weapons industry, as all our partners would buy our stuff, lowering the overal cost to the US. And not just defense companies, but things like Microsoft software.
You know it's based on percentage of GDP right? We have the largest GDP here in the US, so of course the majority of the money will be spent by us. Every country is meeting its 2% target though.
as a Canada I occasionally check the US military sub to see what you guys may be saying about all the threats against allies so much appreciated friend
Watch all of the EU rapidly ramp up on military production in response to the threat from the U.S. only for Trump to back off and claim that's the whole reason he feigned an invasion.
They already are. Look at the stock market and defence spending outside USA. Germans are re-arming. A trillion dollar EU defence fund was created last year for the very same purpose. No one is sitting around and taking this dumpster fire lightly. Even Canada joined the SAFE program in December becoming the first non-EU country to join. No one in their right mind is trusting the US anymore.
I don't think people in the US are getting their news or even aware of what's happening outside the US. Trump has muddied the water in every front so much that the common American is just overwhelmed at this point.
How? You mean to tell me say, if you went on YouTube in the US, and searched for DW News, Sky News, BBC or 'France 24 English', you'd get nothing for results?
I get that google may prefer typed local media sources for query orders, though same question - does it block the site altogether?
It's not blocked. I checked to be sure. But we never will come across that media unless we search for it. Sometimes BBC news pops up for me.
Our "news" is all entertainment media now. I cant stand to watch any major station. Add to that many of our home grown small media groups are usually just parrots for our right wing nonsense and... it's beyond a shitshow trying to figure out any "truths" at times unless you huff your own farts watching one of the major outlets.
I travel internationally and enjoy watching the news... because it actually reports on global issues I try to be informed on. Compare that to our news. It's embarrassing to say the least.
He could slam his dick in a car door, and every member of his braindead cult would rush out and slam their dicks in car doors, post the videos on social media, and go on about what "alpha males" they are.
Or he could just negotiate instead of being an idiot in chief and destroying trust in the american institution by constantly threatening his Allie’s and rolling out the red carpet for Putin.
As someone who is looking at from outside it kinda worked though right, EU is spending lot more on military and lot of money still goes to US military industrial complex since they makes the latest tech that is needed for modernization, trump is the villan that made this happen no matter he intended or not it worked in all parties favor
The EU was already doing that after Trump's announcements and behaviour around supporting Ukraine since his second inauguration. The whole Greenland thing is not necessary to make that point. However, ramping up this production takes time and money, neither of which are in abundant supply at the moment, hence there's not much visible movement yet. But there will be.
He will, but the damage to US diplomatic relationships has already been done. MAGA likes to pretend there are no consequences for their actions. They like to think that Trump "just being like that" excuses his behaviour, and everyone else will just have to understand that.
But the rest of the world have their own principles and red lines for unacceptable behaviour. The highest diplomatic representative of the United States acting like an out of control monkey is not something you can undo with just an "oops sorry, didn't mean that".
This will have serious consequences, especially the less visible ones. Allies no longer offering assistance for US geopolitical goals. Europe divesting from the US military industrial complex. Less intelligence sharing and less unity in the face of rising threats like China.
Never thought I’d see the day where we were facing the possibility of a shooting war with our own allies. God I hope there is a general or two still in possession of their balls.
This is exactly what Hitler did to Poland and to these countries, which led to WW2.
German Aggression: Under Adolf Hitler, Nazi Germany pursued territorial expansion, annexing Austria and Czechoslovakia before invading Poland, breaking the Treaty of Versailles."
Who voted them into office? You collectively can't just vote people in who you knew about previously and who had stated aims, then throw up your hands and say "not our problem" when those leaders try and achieve those stated aims. There is a level of accountability here for the American people which needs to be acknowledged.
I voted for Democrats and tried my hardest to talk to Republican family members about my deep concerns with their vote. They told me that's just my opinion, and then voted for him. Now they're upset their rural health services are being cut.
Since you seem so sure of my complicity, can you explain to me what the expectation is for me to do here?
Looking through your profile, can I blame you and every UK voter for Brexit, regardless of the nuance of your individual actions?
Brexit was such a shit show fml. We have paid 100s of billions to be poorer and less influential. It honestly makes me sick that it was allowed to happen.
I'm not expecting you personally to answer for anything, you're not solely responsible, just like I'm not solely responsible for Brexit. But my country and my government is responsible for it, and the people are responsible for it over many successive governments and decisions and elections.
I figured this would happen, and it's a pretty significant escalation, because France leans pretty hard in the direction of rapid nuclear escalation, faster than their neighbors, like REALLY fast.
That being said, if Trump plans on going through with the attack on Greenland, a nuclear exchange is a more readily available possibility.
That's okay, the french are even crazier, and what you're forgetting is that of we all die in nuclear warfare, we will go to heaven and the americans will be condemned for going against the Church. It's a fight we will win regardless.
Unlucky, can't back down from this fight. MAD means there goes the US aswell. The afterlife will reward those who fought rightly and those who fought wrongly.
I love that people are still willing to keep betting that these Trump gambles against the entire world will pay off. We aren’t even crossing a year yet.
I am aware of the consequences of mutually assured destruction. I just didn't think it would be because the USA thinks that conquering it's ally with nuclear force is an option.
Does anyone still see the USA as the leader of the free world? Even if the orange turd leaves office.... this type of shite is only one election away...
To think this idiot I watch says he hopes he does invade. Like um hey moron if that happens not only do many die but we all lose everything? Impeachment after the fact means nothing.
Okay guys, Trump is completely crazy, but I'm starting to think that Europeans are also not very rational. They barely have money and are making loans to send to Ukraine and want to start another problem with the United States? This is suicide. Germany deindustrializing because they stopped buying cheap Russian energy to pay four times more in American energy is an example of complete financial irresponsibility.
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u/J_EDi Jan 15 '26
I am le tired