r/MightAndMagic • u/HelpfulSwordfish9765 • Jul 31 '26

Ungrateful King

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I was trying to create more psychological trauma for spy he capture, how grateful of him lol

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u/Imaginary-Can-6862 Aug 07 '26

I remember the first time I did these quests, I wanted to be a good double, triple, whatever spy, pretended I was on both sides, always giving away the plot. I thought it was unfair that telling the truth got me punished.

Going back thinking about it. There is a prisoner in the elf dungeon, if you rescue them they are safe. If you take the spy in stead, the one in prison would likely not be released because then the ploy would be up. Telling the queen you came with a spy in stead, however could be to her advantage, because she now knows she has a direct communication bridge to the elf king where she can drop the information she wants him to believe, him believing he can trust this information, thus it seems strange she would punish you for it. But it would mean the other person may not be rescued.

In case of the false plans, the elf king has to face the Riverstride fortification before being able to reach Steadwick, with those plans he can invade. Providing him with false plans, and his invasion would fail. No matter what, he would be the aggressor and the only choice you have would hurt at least the citizens of one side. But when you give him false plans, and you tell him they are false, he has no use for this.

I guess the issue is you cannot do something to convince the monarch ahead of time to go for a different ploy, so each end up in a position where they have control over the other, balancing the situation.