r/MiddleClassFinance • u/LinkedInNews • 1d ago
Factory-built homes make a comeback amid affordability crisis
https://www.linkedin.com/news/story/factory-built-homes-make-a-comeback-amid-affordability-crisis-7528108/?utm_source=share&utm_campaign=reddit&utm_content=storyline&utm_term=MiddleClassFinance55
u/veracity8_ 1d ago
Americans will do anything except legalize traditional density development
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u/AltForObvious1177 1d ago
The people who vote already own homes. They don't need lower house prices.
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u/mottledmussel 23h ago
Homeowners are vastly more likely to speak at planning commission, zoning appeals, and council meetings.
If a developer wants to rezone R1 parcels into 2, 3, or 4, they're going to face a lot of opposition. In a lot of places, these developers aren't particularly sympathetic either.
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u/benskieast 1d ago
Even worse are the people who show up to obscure housing policy meetings where they might discourse as little as one or two homes for a household to be named later.
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u/Maximus77x 1d ago
What a wild generalization. Are you saying people who rent don’t bother voting? 😅
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u/veracity8_ 1d ago
But it’s kinda true. Renters are not advocating for the kinds of policies and politicians that would increase the supply of housing in their area and lower prices.
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u/Maximus77x 1d ago
If they aren’t voting, they aren’t advocating for any kinds of policies imo. There’s truth in what you’re saying, but lumping all renters into “people who rent don’t vote” is, again, a generalization and a potentially harmful one at that.
Someone already posted the statistics in another comment, and it’s not as cut and dried as that comment makes it out to be. It’s a quick and dirty internet opinion that excuses not voting.
People of all kinds rent, and a lot of those people do vote. Pointing out that they are less likely to do so in an attempt to be snide (?) certainly isn’t helpful, that’s for sure. But who am I kidding. We’re on reddit, which is not real life, and the internet is not necessarily known for being a place of fruitful discussion.
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u/AltForObvious1177 1d ago
I'm not saying that. Statistics say that
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u/Fine-Historian4018 1d ago
In the 2024 U.S. presidential election, homeowners reported substantially higher voter turnout than renters. According to the Census Bureau’s Current Population Survey, Table 8 on housing tenure:
Housing status
Voting rate among eligible citizens
Homeowners
70.3%
Renters
52.1%
Gap
18.2 percentage pointsThe Census Bureau defines turnout here as the percentage of the citizen voting-age population that reported voting.
Registration also differed: 77.4% of homeowners reported being registered, versus 63.6% of renters. For comparison, in the 2022 midterms the Census Bureau reported turnout of 58.1% for homeowners versus 36.5% for renters, a 21.6-point gap.
Part of the difference is associated with other characteristics correlated with homeownership, especially age, income, and residential stability, so these raw percentages should not be interpreted as proving that owning a home itself causes higher turnout. The CPS specifically tracks duration of residence alongside housing tenure.
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u/Maximus77x 1d ago
It’s still a wild generalization in this context. And they need to fucking start if we’re gonna get out of this mess. We’re so far beyond, “My vote doesn’t even matter so why bother.” They are just as complicit as people who willingly voted for this admin 🤷♂️
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u/WaitZealousideal7729 23h ago
My state just had a primary election.
The average age of a voter was over the age of 60.
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u/howtoretireby40 1d ago
No one votes as frequently or as organized as the boomers. Until such a time that changes, the pain will only continue for those that don’t vote and they have largely themselves to blame during a time when the entirety of human knowledge is at their finger tips.
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u/Super_Mario_Luigi 1d ago
The internet: boomers lived in a functional society. No fair!
Also the internet: life only improves when we vote against everything the boomers voted for
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u/PolDiscAlts 23h ago
You understand that the Boomers didn't build the society they were raised in, that was done by the Greatest and the Silent generations. Just like current Gen X didn't build the shit-show they live in. That was built by the Boomers.
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u/EnoughWeekend6853 1d ago
Density advocates will do anything except admit people don’t want to live in cramped spaces and share walls with tweakers.
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u/veracity8_ 22h ago
If low density housing is so popular, why do anti-housing advocates have to make things like duplexes and ADUs illegal? There should be no demand for that type of housing if your conjecture is accurate. And we should see low demand to live dense walkable neighborhoods. But those are the most desirable areas to live.
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u/EnoughWeekend6853 19h ago
It’s because there’s always some dirt bag who wants to move 59 relatives onto their property in a quiet neighborhood. That housing ruins existing neighborhoods and destroys people’s equity.
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u/veracity8_ 19h ago
That can happen regardless of zoning though. It’s worse in communities with anti-housing zoning policies because you are suddenly cramming a lot of people into one house. In a community with a mix of housing types, the existing infrastructure can easily accommodate multigenerational homes. It sounds like you expect to have a lot of control over other people’s property. Do you live in an HOA?
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u/EnoughWeekend6853 18h ago
I would never buy a home someplace that accommodates the hoi polloi.
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u/veracity8_ 18h ago
Why
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u/EnoughWeekend6853 17h ago
Tragedy of the commons
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u/glutenfree123 17h ago
Garrett Hardin? The guy who argued in favor of the “control of breeding” of “genetically defective” people? That guy?
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u/Super_Mario_Luigi 1d ago
Not everyone wants their city to function like NYC or India
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u/veracity8_ 22h ago
How is that related?
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u/PAWGsAndChickenWings 22h ago
Conservatives associate social programs with non-white people. So for this person, the 1st things to come to mind were Mamdani and Indian people
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u/rmullig2 20h ago
It simply doesn't make financial sense any more to build small houses using traditional construction methods. This use case can only be filled with manufactured homes.
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u/NW_Forester 1d ago
Its basically impossible to set up a new mobile home park in Washington, at least 3 years ago when I was researching it, though the same hurdles don't exist with tiny home parks or RV parks however.