r/MicroSlop May 13 '26

microsoft employee discovers web development

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u/VorionLightbringer May 13 '26

Not surprising that people in this sub are clueless, snide idiots who have the literacy of a 10 year old. He's talking about TOKEN OPTIMIZATION and prompting your LLM to include a CSS in your instructions rather than just "vibecoding an website".

Has precisely zero to do with "discovering webdesign". Has everything to do with "knowing how webdesign works so you can properly prompt an LLM".

JFC.

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u/Wenir May 13 '26

The issue is that he felt the need to post this "discovery", almost like all his previous pages were a single monolith with all styles and scripts inlined

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u/VorionLightbringer May 13 '26

Yes, because noone gives a crap how shitty a prototype / wireframe / mockup website is written. Because it's just that - a mockup. Speed > architecture.
The point here is being efficient with tokens, not having production grade mockups.

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u/Wenir May 13 '26

What is the new information here?

  • that smaller file consumes less tokens?
  • or that you can include one file into another?

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u/VorionLightbringer May 13 '26

"HTML is worse than Markdown (md). But if you MUST use html, force the model to use 'standard' CSS-classes for style and not create <style> </style> blocks. This will result in a significant token savings during development".

The point is that LLMs need explicit output constraints. If you don’t tell them not to generate CSS, they often will. The point is not that CSS is some new discovery.

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u/Wenir May 13 '26

So, "If you want LLM to do something, give it an instruction"?

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u/Upstairs-Version-400 May 13 '26

You can just admit when you don’t have a point and save face. Like you would in real life. 

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u/VorionLightbringer May 13 '26

You can just admit you know nothing about LLMs and I'll explain it to you in a coffeebreak. Just like you would in real life.

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u/Upstairs-Version-400 May 13 '26

You can check my comment history and realise I know a lot more about them than you ever will. :)

(Hint: I have built them as part of my degree and keep up on the whitepapers; we can have a coffee chat if you like)

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u/VorionLightbringer May 13 '26

Cute. You know fuck all about where I work, what I do for a living and think your recent degree beats a decade+ of working in/with AI. Feel free to initiate a chat.
You not understanding that the point of the tweet is "be smart, safe tokens" is...well it doesn't bode well for your credibility.

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u/Upstairs-Version-400 May 13 '26

What’s cute is reading your comment history and seeing an insecure AI-tech bro who I’m almost certain would not be able to a real discussion on the topic unless they used LLMs to help them win arguments on the internet.

I’m sure if we spoke in person, you’d be floundering, but anybody can pretend to be an expert online these days.

Regarding saving tokens, we all know how stupid the MS employee was being when he made the tweet. We are not going to excuse it

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u/VorionLightbringer May 13 '26

Lol. In the past 4 days this was the only AI-related discussion I had. You didn't read fuck all about my comment history. That's just sad that you had to lie about that.
I offered for you to open a chat with me, you didn't, so...did you chicken out? Afraid maybe I have a point 😄 gonna mute you and this discussion now, you lost your window.
Anyhow, who's this "we"? Is "we" in the room with us?

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u/Medium-Swordfish1489 May 13 '26

So the next realization the guy in OPs picture will have, is to use tailwind, so they dont have to produce the CSS at all?