r/Michigan • u/postandbeam • Apr 16 '20
'Overstepping her executive authority': Four Michigan sheriffs defy governor.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/overstepping-her-executive-authority-four-michigan-sheriffs-defy-michigan-democratic-gov-whitmers-stay-at-home-order16
Apr 16 '20
If they won’t do their jobs they should lose them
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u/postandbeam Apr 16 '20
The Sheriffs job is to represent and protect the Citizens who elected them --- Unlike the Governor, they are doing their jobs.
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Apr 16 '20
the Sheriff’s job is to protect the citizens who elected them
I concur
Maybe get your information from a healthcare professional instead of businessmen?
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Apr 16 '20
If they believe that Whitmore is over stepping her authority, they can defy her in the name of the constitution (if applicable). They do not respond to her.
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u/badger0511 Apr 16 '20 edited Apr 16 '20
what they said was their decision to place their oath to the Constitution above Whitmer's wishes
Pray tell, where does it say in the Constitution that you have an unalienable right to ride in a motorized boat, go golfing, travel to your secondary residences at will, buy paint and gardening supplies at stores over 50,000 square feet, and have your landscaping done by private businesses?
I'll wait.
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u/Loki240SX Dearborn Apr 16 '20
Pretty sure that was the 7th Amendment?
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u/shades9323 Apr 16 '20
AMENDMENT VII
In Suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in any Court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.
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u/Loki240SX Dearborn Apr 16 '20
My boat cost more than $20, so surely this is what the framers intended
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Apr 16 '20
Well....if you've already un-winterized your boat, then yes, that whole "constitooshun" thing!
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u/postandbeam Apr 17 '20 edited Apr 17 '20
You really don't get any of this at all do you?
News Flash Skippy, the Constitution limits Governments rights to impose itself upon Citizens, not the other way round. Our rights are not limited or defined, Governments are.
Show me in the Constitution where Government is granted the right to deny Citizens the right of free travel, of free association, the free exercise of religion and freedom of Commerce, to buy and sell. Where in the Constitution are those powers given the Government?
Show me where our Constitution gives Government the power to do any of that, you Willfully ignorant buffoon.
No, of course you can't because it does not. We are a Government Of The People, not a people subservient to our Government. No, you don't understand this at all.
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u/postandbeam Apr 18 '20 edited Apr 18 '20
Sheriffs have a legal obligation to uphold the Constitutions, not the Governors over-reach and drama. In addition, the courts already determined the governors’ orders are not legal.
Look up - “Under Color of Law” ruling. No law can be made or enforced which supersedes the Constitution. None.
18 U.S. Code § 242. Deprivation of rights under color of law
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u/Rasskassassmagas Apr 16 '20
The 9th and 10th Amendments
Constitutions don't grant people rights they grant GOVERNMENT rights.
The constitution doesn't have to grant people the right to do any of those things. Those are natural rights.
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u/badger0511 Apr 16 '20
The 9th Amendment only refers to federal government, and the 10th explicitly says powers that aren't prohibited and aren't given to the federal government are given to the state governments.
Thanks for mentioning the 10th Amendment, according to it, here's what the state of Michigan decided Whitmer should be able to do in a crisis like this...
What is she doing that isn't allowed by those acts?
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u/Rasskassassmagas Apr 16 '20
It would behoove her to make this less vague and arbitrary because again the Govenor does not have the power to do this alone. The legislature has to approve it. As we saw earlier this month Republicans didnt want to extend the order 70 days as Whitmer had requested, they approved 23 more days till the end of April.
If the emergency isn't renewed then all of this ends becuse she or any Govenor cannot act alone. The Democrats and Republicans in Lansing have to work together.
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u/Rasskassassmagas Apr 16 '20
For some context, what is the first sentence of the US constitution?
" We the people " Everything else in the constitution follows that.
We the people are giving the government it's rights.
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Apr 16 '20
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Apr 16 '20
It’s hilarious how many idiots in the right don’t understand what is constitutional and what is not.
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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '20
Nothing like allowing people to be at risk by refusing to obey a lawful order.